I was reading the serato forums in the dj intro area and the amount of stuff in there about the vci-400 is amazing.
It basically goes like this.
“now I bought the 400 and I find out I cant use 4 decks with serato wtf ,when are we gonna be able to use 4 decks and is it gonna cost me more and if so how much ?”
“I bought a 4 channel mixer and should get a 2 channel software? Its like i buy a car with a 4 zylinder motor and there work only 2.”
"Why on earth would a high end, $1K, 4-channel controller be only compatible with entry level/2-channel Serato Intro software and not the higher end/4-channel Serato Itch software? "
I don’t understand it, was the product ever marketed as being compatible with ITCH? Do people not read the product descriptions when shelling out 1000 USD? Are people that stupid?]
I’m not having a dig about serato btw, this is entirely a dumb user situation.
i think there is alot of people out there now that buy any equipment without knowing anything about even djing. There’s alot of those type on this forum especially O_O
It’s gotten really bad now a days due to the trend of music
Yeah, most DJs are pretty stupid. People like us who hang around on internet forums researching and talking about gear and technology are a small minority and the average DJ is interested in learning the bare minimum possible.
What??!!!? You guys don’t know? The best gear makes you the best DJ. My $150 bcd3000 won’t get me to Ibiza, but if I spring $4000 on a new MBP, a pair of 1210s, the latest greatest pio mixer, 6 midifighters, and some beats headphones, and some monster cables, THEN I will be pro.
I disagree - most DJs I know want to learn more and get better all the time. You do get the barely-skilled kids who work out how to beatmatch and then try to make out the World owes them shows and credit - but as a rule I think people who get into DJing seeing their peers do something new or exciting and want to learn how to do it.
As for people who sit online all day talking about it - that’s good in practice if your actually putting those skills to use - it’s like masturbation; great on your own but amazing if done with someone else.
From a guy who bought himself an S4 and the rest of the stuff in my signature with little to no experience in DJ’ing. It is a matter of throwing yourself in the deep-end or that your parent’s have too much money and you need to get rid of it.
I noticed on serato and itch forums there’s alot of umm bizarrely stupid posts.
I’ll point out one I had to post in about how his new i7 laptop couldn’t run itch rent go it has 8 virtual cores. I had to inform them an i7 laptop CPU up until recently was only clocked at 1.7 which is below the suggested click speed of 2.2. Like this guy ripped about it for 4 paragraphs and the ignorance that fills thoose forums make me hate going there.
Like in same thread a guy cursing about itch not working but refusing to run the serato diagnostic tool because his system was below spec.
Suprisingly this thread went on for 2 years and was filled with so much bullshit I couldn’t read anymore.
I think part of the problem is the overall confusion is how different companies sell their products. It took me a while and I still don’t fully understand the difference between Serato Scratch Live, Itch and Intro. All I know is the SSL needs hardware.
To make things more confusing hardware controllers are often not made by the software they support.
Say what!?!?!?! 5 mins spare time and google will answer this for you!!
All this is just kids wanting to be cool then finding out it actually takes a bit of effort!! The same reason why you find new forum members posting all sorts of questions about “what gear should i get” “What should my DJ name be” etc etc one minute and then 3 months later they are selling all of their shiny new gear in the buy/sell forum because… they… erm… suddenly don’t have time to practice!!
One good thing from this is that us who stick around get access to some pretty cheap gear every now and then!!!
I think people who are really interested in Djing will go out and research everything they need to know about their desired product before buying anything but others who are just doing because its the " COOL " thing will buy their product without having a clue how to use it.
I think it’s more accessible nowadays what with cheaper solutions like the Mixtrack & S2. I think people do think it’ll be easy and just pick it up straight away. It took years for me to buy my first piece of equipment, and even then I was unsure if it was a worthwhile investment. So I just purchased cheap.
Oh that porter robinson uses an S4? i think zedd does as well? they’re big names get me an s4
Ive also heard serato is the industry standard, a quick google search to find out serato ITCH is for controllers,
oh, why wont my s4 work with itch ?
big names and assumptions is why people dont research gear.
i tried to research when i started but didnt know where to start, i knew i needed a soundcard and a controller when i was using TP LE,
i nearly bought an SL1 to use with traktor o.O but ended up buying an audio 8, just to use 2 decks external with a controller, because i didnt know what to research
Um… An i7, even a 1.7GHz one, should run itch without issue. My 2011 MBP has 8 GB of RAM and a 2.0GHz i7 Sandy Bridge processor. Are you seriously telling me you think it wouldn’t run itch because its clock speed is, “too low?” The clock speeds they’re quoting are for Pentium and Core Duo series processors, which the lowest spec i7 will blow out of the water. You cannot compare clock speeds across chip architectures - apples and oranges, friend.
That said, if he’s pointing at his laptop’s hardware as the problem for running itch and it’s new enough to have an i7 in it, he’s an idiot.
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