Traktor 2.5 - Remix Deck mapping for Lemur- 64 slot playback - available now

[Forevernow]

Hi..

Starting a new thread as the original discussion was not in the mapping section.

[I]OSX tested ok, Windows users will need to modify clickout script commands as explained by Deksel here http://forum.djtechtools.com/showthr...l=1#post482127 /I]

Ive managed to create a lemur mapping that successfully can play from all 64 slots + full control of most midi commands.

Available to download free from the Lemur website ( Liine.net).

http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/255/

Uses the Lemurs ability to send mouse moves and clicks to TP 2.5, from an IPAD(3) running Lemur 3.1.0 ( though scripts have also been tested and work with iphone)

update : this was built on OSX 10.6.8 ( Macbook 13" circa 2008/Black version), with Lemur v3.1.0. Windows users will need to check the screen coordinates are the same( see Layout section below). Once tested if someone with windows can confirm this is working for them at 12800x800 that would be nice.ta.

Copy of the readme file below - make sure you read if your planning to use as there are several restrictions due to the screen resolutions and layouts. Only one remix deck ( in DECK C) is setup at this time.

ForvernowF1lemuremulator.jpg

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README.txt
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Hi,


Yesterday Ni released Traktor 2.5, with the new feature of remix decks, providing a similar clip launch function to Ableton. Next week NI launch the F1 controller built to go with these decks , which we all imagine will work perfectly with their software.

For the first time, Ni have chosen to limit the available midi mapping commands for these new decks, leaving people without the new F1 with little benefit (unless your a "mouse DJ").

I'll leave the reasoning and speculation regarding NI's reasoning for this to other forums, ( but come on NI, play the game eh ?)

I took these limitations as a challenge to get to know the Lemur, and Traktor software better, and had the idea to use mouse commands sent from the lemur to the tractor app running on my Macbook.

Enclosed in the download is are Lemur templates ( project and modules), that can be loaded directly or imported into you existing lemur template.

They used midi Channel 10 for all midi commands, which hopefully will not clash with other modules etc.



Trakor 2.5 remix deck limitation limitations
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NI have limited midi mapping options for non NI ( F1) hardwired to the 1st row of a the available 64 pads on each deck, basically making the new deck the same as the old sample decks.


What this template can do
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⁃ Full playback from lemur custom buttons to all 64 pads , via ( 4 pages of 4X4)
⁃ levels and filters for each slot player
⁃ full control of the slot parameters for all 4 slot players
⁃ record loops from playing deck or sampler into the first row only
⁃ change gate/latch mode for the 1st row only
⁃ filter and mute
⁃ clear top row cells
⁃ sync,
⁃ save and load sets
⁃ switch layouts ( CRITICAL SEE INFO ON LAYOUTS BELOW)


What this cant do
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• It cannot change the TRIGGER, PLAY TYPE, SYNC type for the 60 cells below the 1st row.
IT cannot record into slots other than the first row. However all cells/pads can played, effected, filtered etc. and different TRIGGER, PLAY TYPE parameters can be used on a cell by cell basis if setup before you play your gig. Naturally the mouse is always a last resort in a live situation ( hint duplicate cells, with different parameters is a workaround.

The mapping is for DECK C - only - if you need a 2nd "F1" remix deck, you'll need to rework the files. I wish i could help but i really don't have time.sorry


LAYOUTS - read this or it will not work
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This lemur jzml/jzlbs uses the KBMOUSE DAEMON ( as well as standard midi output 0), which can be started from the normal midi daemon page in the taskbar.


▪ Connect the KBMOUSE output to you lemur before going further.
▪ Connect the midi in and out as per normal operation


The lemur buttons that select the remix deck pads do not send midi, but use two scripts for each cell that sends a mouse button press ( or mouse button release) sent to specific co-ordinates on the screen for each cell.

The x/y location of these cells will depend on your screen resolution , and you Traktor layout ( deck size, simple, essential view etc will shift the remix deck pads around the screen),

In order for this template to work for you you must either

a) set you screen resolution to 1280*800 AND run TP 2.5 in full screen mode

b) edit the scripts ( very simple, but time consuming) to use the coordinates that match your setup.


Make a FULL backup export of your settings from the Traktor Controller manager.

Included in the download is are 2 TSI files - you will need BOTH installed for this to work for you.

1) Forevernow_F1_GUI_layout settings_only.tsi

Export of my layouts ( whose names are also used in the TSI file) -these can be imported via the main IMPORT button next to the WIZARD

2) Forvernow_F1_lemur_emulator.tsi

The lemur midi mapping to be imported via the ADD / import option(directly under the DEVICE selector) NOT the large import button

As your cool and smart enough to run Lemur, this advice is probably unnessecary, but in case.

import via the ADD / import option(directly under the DEVICE selector) NOT the large import button next to the setup wizard.

I recommend trying with my screen layout first, and then changing the scripts if you need/like the setup.


Operation.
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access to the pads only works if the "F1 Essential " layout is used. This shows 4 effects, 2 simple track decks and 2 ( 1 usable in this template) remix decks.

ONLY Deck C has been setup ( did i mention that ?)


The template uses 5 tabbed containers, one of which is view, that can switch to other included layouts.

Things you might need to set include the remix deck quantisation, the source for recording loops


Play with it and see.. its pretty straightforward..


DISCLAIMER.. this might mess up you tractor settings if not installed properly.. backup you settings before use.

I'll try and assist where i can, but have little time, so please don't be upset if i cannot help you quickly. Much of the basics are out there on the net..

cheers
joe
Forevernow .

[RainerHaselier]

Very cool idea. I got inspired by your idea and coding some Lemur scripts that calculate the click position dynamically.

I hope you don't mind!!!

This means, different screen resolutions, UI configurations, etc. will be supported.
And I think with some more script code on the lemur side, it should be possible to get control over Gain, Pitch and Reverse playback for every cell too.


I hope you don't mind!!!

Rainer

[basspenetrator]

You are geniuses. Will try that when i upgrade..

[Patch]

Okay - now all the rest of us needs is a Lemur emulator, that we can map our own midi controllers to...

I won't hold my breath...

[photojojo]

Awesome, now I just need to buy an iPad.

[RainerHaselier]

You should be able to trigger playbacki of all samples on an iPhone too.
Less space, less controls, depends on how much control you need.
But still an option

[Forevernow]

Very cool idea. I got inspired by your idea and coding some Lemur scripts that calculate the click position dynamically.
This means, different screen resolutions, UI congifurations, etc. will be supported.

I hope you don't mind!!!

Rainer

Feel free, use whatever you can from the lemur files. Hope it works out, would be a good updgrade.

I need to figure out how to change the sample source dropdown on deckc so you can switch inputs when sampling, had enough for today though.

Also noticed that sync is not great for sample loops from deck a or b,though this is the same with mouse use so suspect its a general feature, vaguely remember the same thing with the loop recorder (which i never used) - needs more testing.

cheers
joe

[photojojo]

Does this work with the iOS app or do you need an actual lemur?

[padi_04]

edit: got it.

Brilliant work! Gonna have to edit the Y parameters to match my layout and prolly replace the Filters with a multisliders so you can set it to bipolar and add some physics action to have it reset to 0 when you release (with an extra on/off button)

[basspenetrator]

Does this work with the iOS app or do you need an actual lemur?

Should work with the ios app..

Awesome, now I just need to buy an iPad.

Dont you have enough reasons already?!