I'm sick of iTunes' lack of FLAC-support and JRivers Media Jukebox is also no option since it can't export to iTunes and therfore deliver a useable library for Traktor and Scratch Live.
I play with the thought of coding the ultimative everyday musicplayer and manager which may also use Traktor's and Scratch Live's database.
What do you think about it?
Which features should such an application definitely have?
Smart playlists that automatically update in Traktor. Keep the star ratings consistent across both no matter which one the ratings are changed in. Ability to edit ALL of the tags in Traktor and build the aforementioned smart playlist off those. What about the ability to load into a deck from the megasuperawseom musicplayer?
Ummm VLC? I can manage my music library just fine without iTunes.
If I need more than what VLC can provide, I launch Traktor. I guess I don't see much need for such an application as you are describing.
Interested in this. For me something useful would be hotkey assigned playlists, by which I mean you assign a playlist to a hotkey and when a track is highlighted in the library and you hit that key, the track is added to that playlist. But that might just be me lol.
AFAIK Neither Traktor nor VLC can move/rename/convert files or change their album art.
I'm talking about full fledged library-management.
@fullenglishprint: Sounds really good. I always hoped Traktor would get such a feature.
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Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
you can do that in itunes if you have a mac....juss sayin ;)
You can??
I always I-Tunes, i like that program, i always change all titles, so i can find it with no problem in traktor. I think it's just about you manage your own list, and what names you gave. I do it like this: every track makes me and the crowd go crazy, i name it Electro or Electro House, every track with a piano or calmer feeling like Avicii style i call it Progressive House, everything for the younger crowd in age 12-16 i call it Dutch House (i live in the netherlands and that's what they like), that's how i do it. So that i'm sure that i always have the right tracks for my crowd.
yes you can i have it so when i click command+1 it turns genre into house, command+2 turns genre into tech-house, etc when i click command+, it puts the song into peak hour playlist.......these are scripts & application shortcuts i setup
BTW, there are ways to get iTunes to play FLAC files, do a Google search.
I'm intrigued, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to get something like this set up in automater. What rules did you set up and how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Santos10
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As for the OPs software idea, anything that can be read in both SSL and Traktor would be all I care
you dont use automator...i have the scripts if you want them P.M me...but first you need to make a scripts folder into the itunes directory then i new menu will appear in itunes on the top bar (file,edit,view,..,..,.., scripts) you can do it manually there by clicking it but that gets tedious...then you go into system preferences...keyboard > application shortcuts > add the scripts name and the command you want and ta-da! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blak Majik
you can do this on the PC as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
See this:
http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12533
edit: btw, I'm well up for an alternative to itunes... as long as it has windows support!
itunes stopped rewriting iD3 tags for me ever since i upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1...
nonetheless a music library that renames/retags and syncs with traktors and seratos library would be awsome... if it automated mik and pn i would be willing to pay top dollar for it...
Yeah but it sucks IMO.Quote:
BTW, there are ways to get iTunes to play FLAC files, do a Google search.
I have demand for such a program myself so I'll likely create it anyways with a similar look and feel to iTunes.
The big idea is to manage and sync Traktor and Serato-libraries from that one place. I'll start creating it with that in mind.
Maybe add a waveform? But I can't really see the point in this as Serato has an excellent one anyway.
The only thing that annoys me with iTunes is the fact that there is no search bar hotkey, so you could add one of them
frustrated iFanboys always frustrated with perfect computer gizmo overlord. is mystery
wut ?Quote:
Originally Posted by duerr
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I dont get why people need to use itunes or any program for that matter to manage playlists. I DIY in traktor itself. Its not perfect, but it works and I have no issues with tag management over several pieces of software.
Personally I hate itunes, getting an android phone allowed me to ditch itunes altogether. Never looked back. Good riddance.
Its also for everyday-listening and rearranging your file-names and locations.
Most people don't seem to care where their files are stored but I like my system clean. Even if my library in TPro and Serato was broken I could still find most tracks.
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Originally Posted by photojojo
this.. make a way to keep both synced.. so when one changes the other does as well.
idk why any one would need to load to deck from the media player lol
BUT I guess you could make some kind of external traktor browser..
make it act similar to iTunes.
Also custom consolidation would be awesome..
so if I wanted to store tracks like:
genre/track... instead of iTunes BS artists/album/track
When I'm not on Traktor, I usually use Foobar to play tunes. More often than not, I end up opening Traktor anyway, cause I get that itch ;)
Foobar supports FLAC, has a graphical EQ, all sorts of playlists, and has a ton of plugins. I saw a thread a while back on their forum where some guy set up dual playlists and some sort of functioning crossfader, even.
It has Kernal playback of audio, too :)
Interesting.. does it properly write id3 tags, and does traktor recognize the changes?Quote:
Originally Posted by safefire
also it appears its PC only. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Flash101uk
Get Seperation Anxiety at the thought, but SO want to go that route F101. iTunes is unashamedly focussing on iPad/iPhone/iPod/iCloud integration. ALL the new updates are for these functions. Stopped updating after v10.
Media Monkey for those so inclined
You can sync an iPod with it.
What do you use instead of iTunes now? The only reason I use it is because I used to use it to sync my ipod when I had one many moons ago. I haven't found a replacement that I'm happy withQuote:
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
(I haven't really looked far though)
I used to use that but I like how I can access my iTunes library in Traktor.Quote:
Originally Posted by MuzicFreq
One thing I wish iTunes had was a way to customize filenames and folder structure. Media Monkey and MusicMatch Jukebox had that.
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so updating will fix this? auto-tagging pisses me off so much. i use Mixed In Key and i re-tag pretty much all of my music. but then when i launch it in iTunes, many of them revert back to the original tag. that ever happen to anyone else?Quote:
itunes stopped rewriting iD3 tags for me ever since i upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1...
I wrote my own in PHP with a flash mp3 player - runs on localhost
Allows me to create playlists, move files, edit tags etc
Would be easy enough to create a flash exe / dmg for the front-end - if I had the time that is, plus it would require people to install mySQL and PHP and a web server
So not that user friendly really ...
That sounds as much user-friendly as the last Traktor Scrobbler was on Mac where you had to install Mono and do some bash-magic before it worked :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky H
I will look into MediaMonkey. Maybe it offers already similar to what I'm trying to achieve.
For those using Traktor and Serato a central player would be awesome though.
I use foobar for my listening/naming/tagging/file management and then drag & drop into traktor.
It's be nice if there was something that could read the foobar library but it's not that much of an issue for me since I don't mix a lot of the stuff in my library
Have you tried foobar2000? It's by far the most customizable, been using it for years
I use windows media player of all things! lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grifff
But thats soley for listening purposes on a different machine all together.
It works. I put tunes in my directory and it picks them up and plays them. Its all I need.
Ive tried different media players like foobar, media monkey, etc. I just cant be bothered to manage something thats trying (and mostly failing) to manage my music across several devices.
So I do it myself. I have a system that works for me and causes me zero issues.
I hate iTunes and refuse to install it on my pc.
It's on my macbook but only cos I have no idea how to get it off..
Clementine! :)
If you are worried about 94.5Mb of disk space just delete it from the Applications folder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Meanwhile, the new Traktor Pro 2 iTunes browsing is excellent. I could make all kinds of strange smart playlists inside iTunes and see them inside Traktor for quick playlist fetching.
Another good idea for a search bar would be the ability to use the minus function like you can on google.
Say I wanted to search for house and tech house songs, I would type "house" into the search bar. But this would also bring up progressive house songs. It would be good to be able to type "house -progressive" into the search bar so I could quickly find songs that I required
Man I love this idea! I've always despised iTunes... Just don't like it.. Used to love MediaMonkey when I was working on PCs, but since I switched to Mac I've been looking for a good alternative. Good luck on this, I'll definitely be watching.