counting bars

[cutflow]

umm can anyone give me a song so i can practice counting bars, and like then i will tell you the answer (write the bars and if it was a break-bar or a dance-bar and then you would confirm if i got all of the answers right or some wrong. so it would be like a test. i want to like master this/ or develop this skill while i continue saving money for my gear. if you can give me 10 songs that you already know the answer to that wud be great.

if this big question is confusing then ill rephrase. i have been counting 1,2,3,4...1,2,3,4....4 beats per bar, right. but i want to be tested now like if i do it myself i wud feel like so confidence like "yeah i did it right" lol so i want to put myself on a test drive.

and you producers i'm sure know some songs and know all the bars, break or dance or w/e other keywords they are, know it by heart so why not youtube me it so i can tell you the answers and you can see how i'm doing. ty ;]

oh and i want to become a tech house dj. but i don't mind listening to prog, tribal or deep house as long as its a good decent song ;]

[Nephew]

You're thinking about it too much mate, most DJs don't even count it out like that, they just feel it. It will come with time and playing.

[jpv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHmOtjjWnM

good video

counting well just comes with practice, i'm pretty new to djing, but it's other genre's of music (non 4/4) where it gets harder. Radiohead being one example

[djhipnotikk]

yeah..your final exam is gonna be to count out a classical piece.. 7/8, 10/4, 5/4..mm..

but regardless of what time signature it is, you can usually "feel" the downbeat. even just listening to a song, if there's a repeating melody, the downbeat will be whenever it starts over again, easy enough to remember right? it'll take a bar or two after that for you to get how many beats are in between each downbeat, after that you're locked in.

however, since most types of dance music use different patterns phrase lengths, you gotta know what's going on. keep your ear open for synths/fx that indicate a phrase change, usually in the last bar before the phrase ends. if you can get down with dubstep, it's a good way to practice. most every song is a bunch of 16 bar phrases, and you can distinctively tell when they start/stop. this will help ingrain that sense that others who posted were talking about. i've stopped counting, and i get kind of a tension in my chest when the phrase is about to end. pretty cool.

[cutflow]

yeah..your final exam is gonna be to count out a classical piece.. 7/8, 10/4, 5/4..mm..

but regardless of what time signature it is, you can usually "feel" the downbeat. even just listening to a song, if there's a repeating melody, the downbeat will be whenever it starts over again, easy enough to remember right? it'll take a bar or two after that for you to get how many beats are in between each downbeat, after that you're locked in.

however, since most types of dance music use different patterns phrase lengths, you gotta know what's going on. keep your ear open for synths/fx that indicate a phrase change, usually in the last bar before the phrase ends. if you can get down with dubstep, it's a good way to practice. most every song is a bunch of 16 bar phrases, and you can distinctively tell when they start/stop. this will help ingrain that sense that others who posted were talking about. i've stopped counting, and i get kind of a tension in my chest when the phrase is about to end. pretty cool.

thats cool as hell. so your saying or recommending that its better to start practicing with dubstep instead of house what i would be spinning is tech house. and then after listening to dubstep then go to tech house. one of my main goals is to have an amazing transitional skills after knowing my tracks for a while of course. and findin the right tracks that fits/works friendly with other tracks. almost like building a family of brothers and sisters. thats what i need instead of having all these tracks feel lonely. i do have some tracks though that after a while listening to some tracks i'm like wWTFF this one makes a perfect transition with this other one.

[DJPhaidon]

Try a band named "Tool"
Their time signatures might through you for a loop, but if you can keep up with em, you know that house and all other electronic musics are going to be mostly a piece of cake. lol

[cutflow]

thanks lol. ill take a look at it on youtube whenever i get a chance and start counting. its probably fast lol, i have thought of this before where if i wud get better at tech/prog etc etc house music if i listen to something faster, with 4 beats? or w/e

[cutflow]

Try a band named "Tool"
Their time signatures might through you for a loop, but if you can keep up with em, you know that house and all other electronic musics are going to be mostly a piece of cake. lol

link me to some youtube vids cause i found some rock n roll and i think that might be the wrong one

[Warwolt]

Tool is a proggresive metal band, who's drummer especially is fond of some pretty ass crazy rythms and time signatures. They also do alot of polyrythms and polymeters so, even more so a mindgamer.

If you can accuratly count the time signatures in their songs, no problem. Try the album Lateralus!

[jpv]

christ!!! do not start with dubstep, its crazy, you think your counting a slow bpm, but its like d'n'b bpm's.

try some armand van helden or any house.