Threre kind of dogging Ean on Serato.

[Zac Kyoti]

Well, I hope none of these guys plan on using The Bridge when it comes out

They won't, because they won't be able to figure out how.

[Kemotherapy]

ya know what struck me just now.
these guys keep dissing Ean.
and with in a few months most of them will end up buying the Dicer.which if im not mistaken was Ean's invention wasnt it?


Haters Gonna Hate -__-

[Jester]

@ serato: welcome to the future. boom

[lethal_pizzle]

@Zak... thoughtful and lucid post over on serato.com there mate

...kind of throws the ad hominem arguments of the rest into sharp relief

[tekki]

Well, I hope none of these guys plan on using The Bridge when it comes out,

If it comes out.

[xtianw]

i like serato, but those douchebags make me glad i own traktor.

[ryansupak]

Hi, I posted in the thread over there. I started doing the controller thing back in 2001-2002. I've written my own software, drivers, crazy templates, effects configurations, done controller mods, chopped up songs into a million triggerable phrases, the whole 9 yards. Before that I was doing the same thing with SP-808s (which is a pain in the ass, BTW). I've looked at all this stuff from every angle I can, and pondered it seriously for years.

My sincere belief is that the controllerism thing, for party or club DJing, is a dead end. In the end, people want to hear tracks they know, or they want to hear a very good remix of a track they know. People typically spend a long time crafting very good remixes (or at least they do it in multiple takes). So, the way I see it, that leaves the controllerist two options: either improvise live and maybe be slightly more interesting than the original track (but likely less interesting), or build your mix into a "routine" and basically follow a script, or a series of scripts.

But, if you're following a script, you have to ask the question, "if I'm basically hitting Play on the routine and letting it go (maybe tweaking a filter or a send over the top of it), then why not just simplify things and record it to one track instead?" At that point, of course, you're right back where DJs were in 1979, only with a hell of a lot more fragile technology to worry about.

I get the novelty of being able to claim that a track is being "remixed live". But, in my sincere opinion, the whole thing is a lot of tail-chasing and you're better off putting that energy into picking the right track to play next, and in paying attention to your crowd. That will pay many, many more dividends IMO.

rs

[lethal_pizzle]

@Ryansupak... you make some good points. The same could be said of turntablism of course. I'm no great fan of 'showing off for showing off's sake' either.
The point is that people use different tools to get the same result, so there is little point in getting annoyed after the fact that the years spent learning to beatmatch and to beatjuggle and to phase 2 records (all mechanical skills) can be done by a machine. Just be thankful that the years of learning phrasing, rocking a crowd and choosing good tunes will make you better than people new to the scene.
When I turn up to work and put in a good shift, people don't ask me what car I drove to work in...
After all, I come to work on public transport and only mix on hand cranked 78rpm wax cylinders anyway.

[dafe]

I for one am glad to be on the fringes of a community that is at the forefront of digital dj'ing. It's communities like these, and visionaries like Ean, that will dictate what we see in our controllers, in our software, and ultimately in our mixes.

I know EXACTLY what can be achieved by cdj's and 1200's, because I've been watching it happen for the past 10 years, and it's been going on far longer than that. Occasionally you get a bright spark that can showcase their skills well, and I enjoy that and appreciate it.

I have NO IDEA where digital Dj'ing is headed, and that excites the shit out of me. Enough that I want to be on board observing here and now.

Let the haters hate. They'll be on board when the time comes.

[ctrld]

Let the haters hate. They'll be on board when the time comes.

and most of them will be too late to keep up