Traktor and serato destroyer

[lethal_pizzle]

Pretty cool if you're one of those that want to use timecode vinyl but not actual real vinyl I suppose.

[MrPopinjay]

Why would you be using any DVS if you didn't want to use timecode vinyl? I mean yeah traktor could just be used an an effects processor but it would be a bloody expensive way to go about it.

[lethal_pizzle]

I never said I didn't want to use timecode vinyl? Although agreed, I'll need phono pre-amps to play my normal vinyl through the software in the way you described.
I had a play around with mixxx a while back and to be honest, it was off the hard drive again pretty quickly. It does seem to have come on in leaps and bounds recently though, looking at the features list.
Stability was certainly an issue for me when I tried it, hopefully they've got it working better 'under the bonnet' too.

[maxonemillionone]

Like Linux?

Hahaha. Funny thing about linux is you fix one thing and break another.

[astromech]

Hahaha. Funny thing about linux is you fix one thing and break another.

I think that's a bit unfair. Both Android and Ubuntu are very solid. The only real issue I ever have with Ubuntu is caused by 3rd party drivers. Cyanogenmod (cyanogenmod.com) is completely open source and very stable.

One area that FOSS has undoubtedly innovated is with software support. Linux and other projects pretty much created the idea of online support communities that Serato and NI now use.

[tombruton69]

Talking about stability of products Windows is stable isnt it. I have a vista and windows 7 machine. My vista machine has crashed about 2wice in 2 years my 7 machine is a nightmare my wireless card causes it to crash. So I have to replace my wireless to have a non crashing machine. Im guessing not many of you actually know whats happening when a computer crashes or a program for that matter. Mixxx are pritty quick to fix bugs. I still use Traktor as my main program and will do for the forseeable future. However mixxx 2.0 will be a majour leep forward and should start to bring it up to a competitive level

[BradCee]

my 7 machine is a nightmare my wireless card causes it to crash. So I have to replace my wireless to have a non crashing machine.

so not 7's fault then? was a hardware issue...

looked at mixxx, i yawned. when/if they bring in video i'll take another look, unless NI get there first

[dumdidum]

How are Mixxx going to develop beyond NI with all their resources and, and their clear aptitude for getting it right.

I know this is an emotive subject for some and its impossible to have an opinion, which if you show any slight descent for Open Source your branded as a corporate whore but for the most part Open Source DJ software is a hobbyist thing. Its cool, its free, its interesting etc... but lets keep it real (just a bit) its never gonna catch up.

Open-source software can catch up and surpass closed-source software in a number of ways.

(i) People find it rewarding to be part of an open-source community and give up some of their free time to contribute to it. Due to the nature of the open-source development model, virtually everyone in the world can participate. And you don't need to be a coder/programmer. You can help with translations. Or manuals. File bug reports. Suggest integration of other libraries or projects. Develop skins or add-ons. Vote for or against features. Help other users. Etc. Bottom line: for most, it is much easier and more fun to contribute to open-source projects than to closed-source projects, spurring rapid evolution of open source.

(ii) Just because a software is open source does not mean there's no money to be made from it. It's not even required to give away open-source software for free. Red Hat has been profitable and expanding for years by contributing to open-source software projects and selling services around open source. By now, every major IT firm participates in open source. Sure, some do more (e.g., IBM, Intel), some do less (e.g., Microsoft). But virtually everybody is in the game.

Also, a view that open source cannot surpass closed source is counterfactual, even when looking specifically at software used by professionals as opposed to hobbyists. Numerous open-source projects have surpassed their closed-source competitors. Some examples:

(i) according to some studies, Firefox is the most popular browser. (At the very least, it seems uncontroversial that Firefox has surpassed IE in Europe.)

(ii) Linux is the undisputed market leader in high-performance computing. Microsoft's market share in that segment is very small, Apple's market share in that segment is 0.

(iii) The LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and Perl/PHP/Python) stack is tremendously popular for web servers. Not 100% sure what market shares are, but if LAMP isn't the leading, it cannot be trailing by much.

(iv) Android. Basically, all market-research firms predict that Android will be the dominant smartphone OS by 2014 (some say as early as late 2012).

(v) Embedded devices. Linux and open-source BSDs combined have captured over 50% market share in most segments (including routers, NASes, and set-top boxes, just to name a few).

[Karlos Santos]

Open-source software can catch up and surpass closed-source software in a number of ways.
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Yeah true. Im fully aware of Firefox, i use it.

We arent talking about a Browser, we are talking about commercially viable and successful DJ software .
there are always these exceptions to the rule but the comparison is weak.


people keep saying that Mixxx has "come on leaps and bounds" but it hasnt leaped enough. Saying its "come on leaps and bounds" is like talking about a sick dog that slowly getting better but it will never run like it used to.

In 5 years time, if Mixxx is as widely used as Serato or Traktor ill eat my laptop. Its that simple.

[V-Hoff]

androids future success will come only if handset/device manufacturers stop fragmenting into so many different builds and configurations. even tho they all share the same kernel, there's just too many different build for it to be competitive for too much longer.

this is why linux hasn't really crossed over.

Linux hasn't crossed over?

Linux is used on the biggest Telecomunications Companny of the South America (Vivo). I work with Linux with Oracle, Weblogic, Apache, etc, etc. Almost the biggest and more expensive servers that support the service for calls and mobile recharges are runing with Linux Red Hat. I know it because I work as a Performance Specialist at Vivo.

I think that is a big cross over to me

Linux is just not general user friendly, but it's one of the biggest and more stable SO for IT Servers.