Serato vs. Traktor Pro.

[sobi]

Is the "SSL is more reliable" argument still valid?!?!?!?!

getting kinda tired of Traktor STILL dealing with a bad rep for a few DJs that couldn't configure their rig.

I've been on Traktor since FS ver. 1 and never had an issue.

Stability??? Traktor is tops in my book.

You just answered your own question on if it's valid or not. SSL=plug and play. TSP/KS4=tweak your system until it works properly... even when your system meets or exceeds the requirements.

[ellgieff]

You just answered your own question on if it's valid or not. SSL=plug and play. TSP/KS4=tweak your system until it works properly... even when your system meets or exceeds the requirements.

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong - I haven't had to tweak anything. Traktor just works for me.

Also (forgot to grab the quote), why would someone use CDJs to control Traktor? Not having to burn a shedload of CDs every week is a big plus, IMO.

[sobi]

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong - I haven't had to tweak anything. Traktor just works for me.

Consider yourself the exception to the rule.

Also (forgot to grab the quote), why would someone use CDJs to control Traktor? Not having to burn a shedload of CDs every week is a big plus, IMO.

The same reason others use DVS. They just like the feeling of CD/Vinyl better than a controller. Also, you only need two CD's/records to use TSP.

[tekki]

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong - I haven't had to tweak anything. Traktor just works for me.

Also (forgot to grab the quote), why would someone use CDJs to control Traktor? Not having to burn a shedload of CDs every week is a big plus, IMO.

Same here. Traktor just seems to work for me, on both windows and mac platform and many Traktor versions.

(Though it might help that I haven't had to use Bome's as an intermediate for more advanced Traktor handling.)

[ellgieff]

Consider yourself the exception to the rule.

The suggestion from someone else above was that the people who have problems are the exceptions. *shrugs* Has there been research done? People whining on a messageboard - can you say "sample bias"?

The same reason others use DVS. They just like the feelin[g of CD/Vinyl better than a controller. Also, you only need two CD's/records to use TSP.

Yes, that's another reason someone might use CDJs (although I think the question of the poster I was trying to reply to was "why CDJs rather than Vinyl?").

I actually knew that I only needed to use 2 CDJs, but thanks for trying to help anyway.

[fullenglishpint]

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong - I haven't had to tweak anything. Traktor just works for me.

Same here. Traktor just seems to work for me

Consider yourself the exception to the rule.

I've never had any kind of serious problem with Traktor. Anything that hasn't been my fault anyway. It must be said that if you take a forum as your sample, the likelihood is that you'll find more people with problems than without since not many people start threads to say that Traktor's working just fine. I might do that right now actually

[fullenglishpint]

http://www.djtechtools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25878

[sobi]

Has there been research done? People whining on a messageboard - can you say "sample bias"?

I don't base it from online message boards. It's just what I've seen in real life. Systems that had issues with Traktor had no issues running competing software. I've see it on several different peoples systems first hand

[loop]

I don't base it from online message boards. It's just what I've seen in real life. Systems that had issues with Traktor had no issues running competing software. I've see it on several different peoples systems first hand

It is like this for a reason. SSL is not using the OS level Audio Framework (CoreAudio/ASIO) - they chose to build their own Audio drivers & framework. The application still supports limited playback through the standard frameworks, but it's only for the offline player, which practically does not require real-time operation. When using the RANE hardware in full ScratchLive mode, it's some proprietary thing. Don't know how is it with ITCH though ...

NI on the other side chose to rely on CoreAudio & ASIO, which give us the flexibility to play on all the hardware one could imagine. Additionally, they need to provide proper drivers for their hardware interfaces which comply with the rules of the respective standards.

Even though, I think it's a myth that the SSL/RANE has no driver & compatibility issues at all. It's still running on the same OS and hardware, so the shortcomings should be there up-to-certain extent. Probably less due to the proprietary part of the story ...

[robtronik]

Karlos, have you seen the exact sales figure reports for MI class products?

How do you know whether TSP is selling better than Serato products?

I'd like to know because that sounds unfounded to me - or pure speculation. What's the deal?