More respects using Turntables?

[deevey]

Promoters and other DJ's expect alot more when using a controller IMHO ... not just a variation of A>B mixing. If you can show you're set utilizes functions not possible with A>B mixing they really should not care.

Personally I find beatmatching and A>B mixing on turntables is piss easy in comparison to putting together a really good controllerist set, but thats what I learned on, others find CDJ's easy, because thats what they learned on etc etc...

Unfortunately since the 70's there has been a club standard which is still in practice be that from space restraints, requirements or simply unwilling "venturing into the unknown" where it comes to people plugging in their own stuff.

However no point in arguing with promoters or radio station managers about what you know or what you don't. I guess the only consideration now is weather you wish to learn how to do it oldschool or wait for the opportunity where another promoter or club has progressed into the 21'st century and doesn't give a hoot.

Every industry for the most part has standard tools, not just DJ'ing - graphics companies will expect you to know use Adobe, Architecture companies will expect Autocad etc etc... regardless if thats what you use successfully on a daily basis or not.

Impress them enough with a live demo set .. maybe a video showing your not just a>b mixing with a few effects thrown on top and they might come round.

[DJ Nada]

Its like the owners of the clubs and radio station lady expect you to know how to really beatmatch two records, and mix. I was suprised how the radio station directors and club owners knew the basics of spinning.
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Are they like industry standard or something. I saw a djmm something.

I thought this was a joke thread at first. You're surprised that they actually expect you to know how to DJ? You sound really wet behind the ears, I suggest you get more experience before you try to get these type of gigs.

[DjLiquitATL]

I thought this was a joke thread at first. You're surprised that they actually expect you to know how to DJ? You sound really wet behind the ears, I suggest you get more experience before you try to get these type of gigs.

More experience for sure... its not just a>b beatmatching on the turntables...there is a skill to mixing as well without the "program" doing all the work for you

Id challenge the controllerist to get a crate of records from a random ttable dj and spin a decent set based on your knowledge of music and ability to mix

[ellgieff]

unrealistic...i am suprised someone said something like that...

so in order for me to drive a car i need to know how a combustion engine works?....

you are kidding me...

What I actually said was: Mechanic's lives would be much simpler if a requirement of car ownership was knowing how an internal combustion engine works.

I see your straw-man, and laugh in his face.

I agree, it's unrealistic. I never suggested it wasn't. It's still truth - and also truth for the user: if you learn how the *thing* works at it's most basic level, you're more likely to get the best results out of the higher level functions of the *thing*.

I think it's worth it for a digital DJ to learn to beatmatch on turntables. I think it's worth it for a digital DJ to learn to beatmatch on CDJs. I think it's worth it for an "analog" DJ to learn how to use digital stuff.

I think this because I've had problems when my preferred interfaces (TT's & CDJ's) weren't available. So learning how to use other gear (or use my software with a midi device) is valuable ...

[DjLiquitATL]

I am old school, but I like to learn how to mix on everything just in case I play somewhere they don't have ttables...I can mix on vinyl, cds, midi, or whatever.... I just prefer vinyl... I've even mixed with pcdj back in my broke ass days when I sold my 1200s to pay a bill...

Knowledge is the best thing to have, even if you don't like vinyl at least you can say you have mixed on 1200s but prefer midi

[Garygary1]

Dj tech tools: where mods derail threads too

[R2D2]

Every single women I speak to says "only real djs spin on techs"

FACT!

[djkevind]

Be prepared to get shit for not being able to beat match, many people gave me shit for using a controller until they realized that I could beat match. Then they felt stupid knowing that I could beat match better than they could. I started out on vinyl and they still tried to discredit me because I use a controller. All you have to do is practice throwing in tracks using the jog wheels and then practice using your pitch on the s4. It will help you to watch the the bar on top to know if you should go faster or slower. Then train your ear to recognize what it sounds like if you need to go faster or slower. Then after you got that move your laptop where you can't see it and try to beat match. You could teach anyone to beat match that doesn't make or break a dj there is more to mixing than just beat matching, But it is a good skill to have.

[photojojo]

Dj tech tools: where mods derail threads too

[farhanashraf]

s4 is becoming very popular so if i were u, i would keep the s4 and use it with my TTs. it is a great controller for mobile gigs and seems liek a solid mixer to use it with ur TT.

dont sell it imo, ur gonna regret it.