Think Mixxx sucks?

[Karlos Santos]

I believe both Traktor and Ableton use the Elastique Pro algorithm: https://www.zplane.de/index.php?page...tion-elastique

Sadly, it's proprietary, so we can't use it. We currently use the SoundTouch algorithm for keylock. We're aware of the quality issues it has and we're working on improving it .

Yup. I wouldnt expect Zplane because then you have costs that need recouping... right?

[rryan]

Now this one is gonna raise a hell of a debate... Strap in.

Oops. I swear I'm not trolling.

But, yes i agree separate waveforms are much easier to work with. I think the VDJ way is bad, very bad.
You then have the debate about vertical waveforms which at some point someone is going to tell you that you HAVE to have or they will never use Mixxx. Some people are totally wedded to them, usually if they have come from Itch or SSL.

Ah right -- we plan on supporting vertical waveforms as well.

[rryan]

Yup. I wouldnt expect Zplane because then you have costs that need recouping... right?

Right -- it costs money but also since we are open-source, to use Zplane's algorithm it has to be open-source also. Otherwise there would be part of Mixxx that isn't open-source, and that's against the rules of the GPL which is the license we release Mixxx under. So, even if we had the money, we couldn't use Zplane.

[Karlos Santos]

Oops. I swear I'm not trolling.

Ah right -- we plan on supporting vertical waveforms as well.

To be honest you will get a lot of kudos for that.

Right -- it costs money but also since we are open-source, to use Zplane's algorithm it has to be open-source also. Otherwise there would be part of Mixxx that isn't open-source, and that's against the rules of the GPL which is the license we release Mixxx under. So, even if we had the money, we couldn't use Zplane.

Ah yeah, of course. Good point, well made.

[zestoi]

Oops. I swear I'm not trolling.

Ah right -- we plan on supporting vertical waveforms as well.

i'd definitely like to see vertical wave forms in mixxx. when i first used vdj with my hercules mk2 (before i switched to traktor) i seem to remember liking the waveforms it had and intially hated the ones in traktor. i guess they were overlapping?

i love traktor pro, but that's for it's mapping capabilities, cues+loops and effects, certainly not for it's mostly fixed layout. i still find it odd that u can't combine the two waveforms in any way - just seems odd to me them being so disjoint.

[Xonetacular]

I'm going to check it out n my macbook now. I'm interested to see all the skins. If there's one thing I have grown to love about traktor 2 is the skin or whatever you want to call it is extremely clean, streamlined, and professional looking. It is very modern minimal looking with no excess 2001 winamp style graphics.

When I installed it briefly at work today it definitely looked good but still seems a little VDJish to me (I think it might be the techy font on the default skin that is doing it). I would love to see someone make a really streamlined skin for it. The One also looks like it has a really clean modern interface (the way the decks and knobs look) and I would like to see something like that for mixx.

[djproben]

Any chance there will be a phase meter in mixxx similar to traktor? I find that far more useful than putting waveforms side by side whether horizontal or vertical.

[Just Friday]

Mixxx rules!
I'm gonna update this in a minute!

Thanks Rryan!

[Xonetacular]

Any chance there will be a phase meter in mixxx similar to traktor? I find that far more useful than putting waveforms side by side whether horizontal or vertical.

I disagree here. A phase meter assumes that the beatgrids are spot on, if the beatgrid is slightly off then the phase meter is off. I found the beatgridding in mixxx isn't very precise and fine tuneable like traktor so I would much rather have stacking waveforms and ignore the beatgrids since they are often wrong and hard to adjust to get a really good lock.

I really wish traktor had another layout option with stacking waveforms since I think it is much more useful for DVS.

[Wala]

Definitely agree with xonetacular about the minimal/professionalism that I see with itch and Traktor. The fonts, graphics, etc. are very easy to see and are aesthetically pleasing. If you can get Mixx up to par on that then you guys have a real good shot at being a competitor in the DJ world.
Oh and continue posting on forums/interacting with the community! That is the BEST thing you can do!