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    I was torn between getting a Rane62 which is famous for its tank-likeness, plus it now has filters, or the DB4, this thread alone has sold the DB4 to me, now jsut to get payments set up

    EDIT: FEP, where did you get yours from and how much did you haggle them down to?
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    People just don't like how it takes up all the analog inputs on the back if you want to use an SL1 with thrus or an audio 8 with multicores, and I'm still trying to understand what DB4 owner would be using an SL1.

    As far as multicores go If I'm going to use timecode I'm just going to use timecode and if I was really desperate to play a record I would use thru in traktor before dealing with the mess that are multicores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    You know I don't see why they ain't using ableton for that. Seems like a much more obvious choice for what they are trying to do.
    Euhh, they're using Ableton with Maschine as a plugin. As you can see they've Faderfox controllers apart (which are hooked up to AUX 2)


    As you can see, both AUX channels are up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDFS View Post
    Euhh, they're using Ableton with Maschine as a plugin. As you can see they've Faderfox controllers apart (which are hooked up to AUX 2)


    As you can see, both AUX channels are up.
    I was talking about the two lads using traktor.

    And kevz718, you gotta bare in mind that different people have different requirements. You may be happy just having one table play through a gimpy channel but others want to be able to play vinyl on every channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    others want to be able to play vinyl on every channel.
    Well if you want to do that with timecode then you need an Audio 10 or SL4 anyway and they have thru through the soundcard and are not designed for multicores/split output so I don't see the problem.


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    Like I said before, not everyone uses an audio 10 or SL4. And dude, designed for multicore? It's a piece of wire. There is nothing special about the soundcard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    Like I said before, not everyone uses an audio 10 or SL4. And dude, designed for multicore? It's a piece of wire. There is nothing special about the soundcard.
    I understand I just mean the soundcard doesn't ship with multicores and has thru through the soundcard unlike the A4/A8 where multicores shipped with it and were part of its intended use down to the multicolored inputs/outputs and there was no software thru outside of traktor. I mentioned the SL4 or and A10 because they are the only sound cards for serato or traktor than can run 4 timecode vinyl decks like you're talking about would be a problem with the DB4 if someone wanted to use splitters.

    And if you're talking about using software other than serato or traktor with timecode like mixxx, xwax, or ableton/ms. pinky then you would just use the DB4 soundcard and inputs to run timecode and it wouldn't be an issue.


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    Yeah I said all that if you read my posts

    You know what the DB4 needs? Two completely separate headphone outputs. I could see it being such a mixer for DJ duos. Do any mixers have two cueing sections so DJs can happily beat match and cue separately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDFS View Post
    Richie Hawtin goes even further, and I believe he truly can be called an Pioneer of Music:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTbwpiwQYcw

    He uses the Traktor FX and Ableton FX on the AUX 2 of the Xone:92, where the AUX 1 is reserved for the Maschine. By routing the FX external, there's more headroom and it all sounds more natural to me, because by doing this, you can make the FX post-fader (because the FX goes straight to the master, and therefore you can just slam the faders down with a tail!) and second, within Traktor use of FX will make the incoming sound louder and can cause clipping within Traktor. With Hawtin's method, the FX comes in on the Xone:92 and as you might know, this mixer has more headroom than Traktor. So you can avoid clipping!
    I just watched this through and noticed that he has a xone:k2 as well. You can see him using is around 6:38. It must be a prototype as this was last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPopinjay View Post
    Yeah I said all that if you read my posts

    You know what the DB4 needs? Two completely separate headphone outputs. I could see it being such a mixer for DJ duos. Do any mixers have two cueing sections so DJs can happily beat match and cue separately?
    Ive seen a few, cant name them off the top of my head though, though most of them have been vestax i think
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