S4 - Traktor Pro 2 - Scamo's Effect Jogs Extreme [Version 5.0 Beta]- The Next Level

[franekk]

Interesting how you got the effect to start with the release of the jog touch. How did you get that to work? Did you need to use modifier 3 or 6 too?

Edit/-Also, what effect did you use to make the pitch change on the right jog? Did you just map the key adjustment? I like that effect a lot!

scamo

I tried different thing including modifiers and after all it found super easy solution - both effects were mapped using "Toggle" instead "Hold", but second effect (vinyl stop) is set to "invert"

and pitch buildup is made from beatmasher that moves slowly from about 80%, "transpose strech" that moves fast from 50% and slow reverb - you can try this mapping in my topic link

[scamo]

Hey, Scamo. Still loving your mapping, but for some reason I can only change effects modes of deck A (using SHIFT-GAIN) when deck A is playing. Deck B functions normally (I don't have to have it playing to change the effect modes). Also, deck B LED no longer tells me loop length on the S4. Are these known bugs?

Finally, I've been digging through the controller manager to understand how you created this mapping. I noticed you have effects modes 1-5 and 8 all set up. Have you considered setting up ALL the effects modes (using just generic/random place holder effects) so that a user could simply go in and change the EFFECT SELECT to any desired effect? I know I can alter and experiment with the modes you already created, but then I lose your modes (which I like). This way, you could sort of have "blank" slots all ready for customization. As it stands, it looks like I would have to start from scratch to create a mapping for each empty mode, and I'm not exactly sure how to tackle that.

Hi Jon,

If the loop indication stops working, then it is more like the communication between the S4 and your computer has stopped or isn't right for some reason. Stop Traktor, turn off the S4, turn on the S4 and start Traktor back up. If you still have issues, delete all the mappings and reimport my mapping twice. Usually there isn't this problem at all.

I have made a "Builder" mapping so people can create their own mappings with only mode 1 in it as an example to sort of learn from. Since the mapping isn't that big, it isn't as confusing.

The thing about mapping effect modes for Jog FX is, I could set up a single effect for each mode, but how much w/d should I set up? How much effect amount should the effect start at? How much should the jog control the effect amount? The list of questions goes on and it takes a lot of experimentation to get a useful effect group going anyway. Well for me it does. So, whoever wants to take this mapping and really make it customized to their liking, will have to learn to map.

I tried different thing including modifiers and after all it found super easy solution - both effects were mapped using "Toggle" instead "Hold", but second effect (vinyl stop) is set to "invert"

and pitch buildup is made from beatmasher that moves slowly from about 80%, "transpose strech" that moves fast from 50% and slow reverb - you can try this mapping in my topic link

Cool, thanks for the info franekk. I'm going to look into the transpose stretch for sure and do the vinyl stop with that. That is a cool effect combination and really shows where you can take the Jog FX mode. I am surprised NI hasn't done more with it.

scamo

[DysfunkDJ]

Get ya finger out then Scamster

[MrAybar]

@scamo What plans do you have with the mapping when the 2.5 update arrives?????

[jdownesbaird]

Hey, Scamo. I'm really hoping you can help me out with something.

I'm trying to learn how to map my own effects using your mapping as a starting point. I decided to use your Effect Mode 4 as a base. I changed the "Effect Select" 1 and 2 to my desired effects. Since there is no Effect 3 for Mode 4 (and I want 3 effects in the chain), I added an "Effect 3 Select", an "Effect 3 Amount", and an "Effect 3 On". Everything seems to have worked great EXCEPT touching the jogwheel will not turn on Effect 3. If I press and hold the jogwheel and THEN press the Effect 3 On botton on the S4, it will come on, but it stays on when I release the jog. Once I push the jog again, it turns off. The settings for my "Effect 3 On" are:

Modifier 1, V 4, button, hold, FX Unit 1, and Left Jog Touch.

Any idea why I can't get the jog to turn on Effect 3? Not sure what I'm missing. Really appreciate the help.

[scamo]

@scamo What plans do you have with the mapping when the 2.5 update arrives?????

hehe...Make sure it works.

It should work too, if nothing was majorly changed with mapping the effect banks, which I don't think there will be any.

I have now decided to not wait for NI to fix the jog wheel preselect between decks problem. I am going to just use the gain knobs to change deck assignment of the effect units. So if you use Shift + Gain knob Deck A, you will get the effect units 1 and 3 turned on for Deck A. If you use Shift + Gain knob Deck B, you will get the effect units 2 and 4 turned on for Deck B. And if you use Shift + Gain knob Deck C, you will get the effect units 1 and 3 turned on for Deck C. And last but not least, if you use Shift + Gain knob Deck D, you will get the effect units 2 and 4 turned on for Deck D. Each gain knob with also control the effect modes. This will work for any flavor of Deck. However, if you use Track decks for C and D and switch between A and C or B and D, you will be constantly switching the Jog FX mode back on too, a problem which NI have said they are looking to fix. I just don't know when.

scamo

[jdownesbaird]

Hey, Scamo. Sorry to repost, but I still can't figure out why I can't turn effect 3 on with the jogwheel in Effect Mode 4 (see previous post). Is there something in your mapping that is overriding my "Effect 3 On" assignment? It actually turns effect 3 OFF when I push the jogwheel (if it's already on).

[scamo]

Sorry, while I was writing my post, you posted yours and I missed it.

Yes, the third effect in the Group Mode of FX Unit one is always the "default" controlled effect with the jog. (Something I've also asked NI to simply take out, cause it is just a pain in the butt to map around). So in order to stop it from "moving", I've set up one or two commands to basically stop it. Sorry, I am not on my DJ computer, so I can't tell you exactly what to do to get rid of it, but if you search for the amount control for Effect 3 Unit 1, you should find what I did and just delete it or change it to however you need it.

scamo

[jdownesbaird]

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll check it out when I get home later, but I thought that I altered your "Effect 3" amount correctly. When I push the jog in effect mode 4, I can control all 3 effects perfectly fine. The amount is correct as well. It just doesn't turn the effect ON in spite of my mapping assignment. Is there something that would prevent the effect from actually turning on when I press the jog?

[r1chardell1s]

Hi Scamo,

It's clear you have invested a lot of time and energy into leveraging out the capabilities of this controller. It's continued development is one I feel needs supporting since the DJTT TSI seems to be in a state of suspension and is currently unusable.

So a big thank you from me.

I was wondering how can I send you a little cash token of my appreciation for your continued efforts?

Rich