A disconnect I'm noticing in the culture

**smiTTTen** · 12-30-2012, 03:03 PM

Well I have LOADS of gear and I'm rubbish. I'd go as far as to say that the more I buy, the worse I get.

**whiskeyflip** · 12-30-2012, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by dripstep

As a forum, a community, it is our job as older members (not you, welcome to the forum by the way), or educated members (you?) to help out these newbs who are making mistakes.

If you don't want to help, don't join a forum, or at the very least, ignore their posts.

Like I've said, I've been here for 4-5 years, and had many accounts. Your account has been around for aaaaaalmost a year. Welcome to the forums by the way, Dripstep.

also, I KEEP EXPLAINING THIS. Some of you are arguing about the wrong thing. Nobody's saying the problem is people ASKING for support, that is a GOOD thing. The problem is people GIVING support, who shouldn't be. I answer newbie questions all the time on this forum, the issue is the kids who don't know what they're talking about who are ALSO answering questions.

**vanaema78** · 12-30-2012, 03:12 PM

haha, I love seeing trolls pop up from time to time.
whiskeyflip, your alibi doesn't really work too good and I love to see how you attack back with no real facts just to make people feel bad. Trying to find authority with saying you have been around for many years doesn't work.

**0Notice** · 12-30-2012, 03:24 PM

Those accounts you have with your "thousands" of posts are where?

**fullenglishpint** · 12-30-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by whiskeyflip

My two or three last posts explain why it is important for the culture to be educated... Because it influences the meta-scene. For example, it's just like why we should be talking about progressive things like alternative fuels etc. to make them more mainstream concepts.

There are people on this forum who make their own midi controllers, and that's awesome. If they have an innovative idea, they can make it public and spread the word. However, that's not for everyone. Neither are CDJs or turntables. You seem to have this ideal of "The DJ" as some sort of ultimate music reproduction entity, each of whom should be utterly unique. The fact is that some people just want to give DJing a go without breaking the bank, and for them a $200 controller is perfect.

I have a lot of experience recommending gear to people on this forum. I know a lot about what's available and what it can do. Since I don't work for a DJ hardware company, I don't feel it's my job to market expensive gear to people. I recommend what I think is right for them.

Furthermore, I don't think it's anyone's job to police what people buy. Good ideas get talked about here, it's not just the big name controllers. Think of the QuNeo and Behringer's CMD line for example.

Originally Posted by whiskeyflip

There isn't a problem with newbies ASKING questions, the problem is newbies ANSWERING questions, and speaking as if they knew what they were talking about. I just explained the tangible repercussions of this, with the S2/S4/F1's locked-down system that doesn't serve the customer as well as it would if the community was more vocal about not letting them get away with it.

What a load of bollocks. There's no such thing as an absolute newbie who knows nothing, they may very well know the answer to the question. You don't need 5 years of DJ experience to know how Traktor mapping works or whatever. And if someone gives a wrong answer, there are enough people around here who do know what they're talking about to put them right. Maybe your apparent frustration would be better spent correcting these mistakes than bitching about them.

**fullenglishpint** · 12-30-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by whiskeyflip

Like I've said, I've been here for 4-5 years, and had many accounts. Your account has been around for aaaaaalmost a year. Welcome to the forums by the way, Dripstep.

Dripstep is a valued member of this community who is very helpful. You, as far as we know, joined this month and have 36 posts. Please do enlighten us, who were your former personas?