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    S2 and X1. That's already pro enough gear for weddings and corporates. Those clients aren't really gonna know or care.

    For clubs an x1 with soundcard and lappy with the clubs mixer is pretty acceptable.

    Maybe u need a mixer and soundcard (audio 6/10) and learn how to set that up and mix like that.

    I played on nye after Bill Brewster on a funktion one with an S2 as my mate had his there. No one batted an eyelid and I rocked the shit out of the place.

    S2 is not a toy despite what some insecure / douche djs think. Is it as tactile to the touch as a real mixer? Debatable. But it's a proper bit of kit if you use traktor. And 2.6 for me has finally made internal mode not make me miss a real mixer (z2 filters, eqs and post fader fx and macro fx)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kooper1980 View Post
    It sounds to me like you are "upgrading" just for the sake of it. Rather than asking this question my advice would be to think about how you currently perform with your existing equipment. What are its limitations? what cant your existing set up do that you would like to integrate into your performance? Answer these 2 questions and then start to consider what equipment will best assist in correcting these issues.
    I reckon its pretty funny that the local guy has the best info regarding my question. After reading your and everybodies else comments about upgrading I have come to the same conclusion that I'm only upgrading for the sake of upgrading. I think it was a case of me just thinking that the S2 wasn't 'pro' enough for what I wanted to do with it, and that as I started working more gigs I needed 'pro' gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxOne View Post
    S2 and X1. That's already pro enough gear for weddings and corporates. Those clients aren't really gonna know or care.

    For clubs an x1 with soundcard and lappy with the clubs mixer is pretty acceptable.

    Maybe u need a mixer and soundcard (audio 6/10) and learn how to set that up and mix like that.

    I played on nye after Bill Brewster on a funktion one with an S2 as my mate had his there. No one batted an eyelid and I rocked the shit out of the place.

    S2 is not a toy despite what some insecure / douche djs think. Is it as tactile to the touch as a real mixer? Debatable. But it's a proper bit of kit if you use traktor. And 2.6 for me has finally made internal mode not make me miss a real mixer (z2 filters, eqs and post fader fx and macro fx)
    You make a really good point about the clients not caring. When I get booked to do a gigs I get booked to do one thing and one thing only, to entertain the people there. They won't care if I use a controller or 2 grand CDJ's, they are just there to have a good time and listen to music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kooper1980 View Post
    This is whats giving me so much time to decide. I dont want to take the plunge until I see these released.



    I keep considering turntables. I just cant decide whether the thought of turntables is more attractive than actually using them. Maybe nostalgia creeping it. I've never wanted to own CDJ's before but I played on some 900's over Christmas and they have caught my eye but i will definitely be using them with Traktor so they really just become VERY expensive controllers. To honest im leaning towards the CMD line of X1's once Ive seen what the CMD's are like in the flesh!
    You can always buy some cdj100 or cdj200 which you can find cheap now and just use timecode. You have to check you're comfortable. It's a matter of taste. I prefer an analogue mixer. I've been repairing one vestax and i think that if it goes well I stick with it and modular controllers made by my new company which I'm about to send to the market (maybe, still thinking all of this) and later timecode. Later because I don't have cdjs nor turntables and I get an audio2 for 60€.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Santos View Post
    You can always buy some cdj100 or cdj200 which you can find cheap now and just use timecode. You have to check you're comfortable. It's a matter of taste. I prefer an analogue mixer. I've been repairing one vestax and i think that if it goes well I stick with it and modular controllers made by my new company which I'm about to send to the market (maybe, still thinking all of this) and later timecode. Later because I don't have cdjs nor turntables and I get an audio2 for 60€.
    To be honest the only CDJ's I would consider buying would be 1000's, 850's or 900's. The low end CDJ's are hopeless in my opinion.

    And seriously how far away from market are you with your line of modular controllers? Last I saw you havent even decided how its going to look so "about to send to market" seems a little far fetched to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJwindowsJedi View Post
    I reckon its pretty funny that the local guy has the best info regarding my question. After reading your and everybodies else comments about upgrading I have come to the same conclusion that I'm only upgrading for the sake of upgrading. I think it was a case of me just thinking that the S2 wasn't 'pro' enough for what I wanted to do with it, and that as I started working more gigs I needed 'pro' gear.
    Where in Perth are you?

    Dont be ashamed of your S2. Your ability is what counts not your equipment.

    I speak from experience though because I've been very guilty in the past of just buying something new for the sake of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kooper1980 View Post
    To be honest the only CDJ's I would consider buying would be 1000's, 850's or 900's. The low end CDJ's are hopeless in my opinion.

    And seriously how far away from market are you with your line of modular controllers? Last I saw you havent even decided how its going to look so "about to send to market" seems a little far fetched to me.
    Well... semantics :P the about was a little overstated ehehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by kooper1980 View Post
    To be honest the only CDJ's I would consider buying would be 1000's, 850's or 900's. The low end CDJ's are hopeless in my opinion.
    I feel exactly the same way about CDJ's, I'd only consider buying 1000's or 800's just 'cause I would only use them with Traktor so the USB inputs on the 900's and 850's would be wasted IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by kooper1980 View Post
    Where in Perth are you?

    Dont be ashamed of your S2. Your ability is what counts not your equipment.
    Amen to that mate. I live about 5 min from Joondalup, about 30km from Perth Ccity
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    Stick with what you have for the time being mate. Use your gig money to buy gear.
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    This is my advice, if you dont know a whole lot about mappings and programing controllers, dont go for modular.
    Things can get pretty complex to get things the way you want, but then again, maybe thats just me because i like my set up to do everything i need, and use everything to it's potential.
    for example i use a novation launchpad purely for launching tracks, clips, one shots, loops and all of that, then i use the touchable app on my ipad for volume sliders and to control some effects, then i use my m-audio oxygen 8 for filters, tempo, sends and some more effects.
    But i do a lot of internal stuff as well as just running ableton on my computer, because: I like everything to be used, and i have a whole lot of time on my hands to stuff around ahah

    hope this helps !

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