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    Quote Originally Posted by balakoth View Post
    Try actually using those vsts you just loaded then... If you say you run 2 massives 2 fm8s FX Chains and Machine at 4 percent.. Youd just be lying. Or highly over exaggerating. Or they sit there idle.. whichever.. whatever.. Who cares.
    I don't appreciate being called a liar.


    Goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botstein View Post
    I don't appreciate being called a liar.


    Goodbye.
    Guess Im confused on what you showed me... Your Clip View.. cut off... and you hit play.. Ok... Ill play too...
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    Then you come to something that uh... actually makes these vsts do something.
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    Good day to you sir

    Id stick around the thread though, Dan may want some assistance with the midi syncing on the same computer etc, audio routing and all that goodness you seem like you may do that yourself. You may be of more use to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by balakoth View Post
    Essentially yes. MIDI Cable from the Denon to your Second Laptops Midi Interface/Soundcard once you turn on the necessary settings Traktor should send a midi signal out, Ableton will receive if as long as you have sync on that device on.. and then its up to you to figure out adjusting the delay so the two "Clicks" from each program line up.

    THIS is of course all if you want to use TWO Laptops to do this operation. The second Laptop is going to need to have its own external sound card (probably preferably one with midi)


    But if you are just starting to mix and get the hang of how you want to do things, don't have the extra sound card, extra laptop or the funds right now at your disposal, running Ableton and Traktor on one machine is a different process.


    As far as Traktor is concerned, because your denon is USB and a sound interface, you should be able to just use Traktor preferences to have Decks A and B round to one of the four channels on the Denon.

    Then Ableton again its down to preference. You can have multiple tracks that just go back to one channel on your mixer, or you can split tracks up to go to two channels (two more decks for example as tracks in ableton).

    Some form of USB controller for all of this would be ideal, but controllers are personal preference.

    Past the syncing of the software, or laptops, what devices to control ableton and traktor is entirely up to you
    Sound, thanks man!!!

    I've been DJ'ing 20 years, there or there abouts anyway... Only moved onto Traktor about a year ago but that's when I got the Denon mixer and all that. I've already got the second computer, it's a Dell WIN7 lappy, with 2.4gb quadcore processor and 8gb of RAM, I bought it to run Traktor but it's too unreliable so that's why I got the Mac.

    I'm just using the laptop to go on the net and that's a real waste of a quality machine so that's why I've decided to try and get this working. All I need is to find the right external soundcard that will work with my laptop, then I'm going to buy a little mixing desk to put them through and then finally an Akai APC20 or maybe an APC40 and then I should be sorted.

    I don't intend to use my set up to play live, just to mess about with at home, when I'm out DJ'ing, I'll just take Traktor on the Mac.

    I'm going to do some research into soundcards and mixers, then when I've decided on which bits to buy, no doubt I'll be on here tapping the knowledge base to help me get it working!!!

    Thanks for your advice so far chaps!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdanhack View Post
    Sound, thanks man!!!

    I've been DJ'ing 20 years, there or there abouts anyway... Only moved onto Traktor about a year ago but that's when I got the Denon mixer and all that. I've already got the second computer, it's a Dell WIN7 lappy, with 2.4gb quadcore processor and 8gb of RAM, I bought it to run Traktor but it's too unreliable so that's why I got the Mac.

    I'm just using the laptop to go on the net and that's a real waste of a quality machine so that's why I've decided to try and get this working. All I need is to find the right external soundcard that will work with my laptop, then I'm going to buy a little mixing desk to put them through and then finally an Akai APC20 or maybe an APC40 and then I should be sorted.

    I don't intend to use my set up to play live, just to mess about with at home, when I'm out DJ'ing, I'll just take Traktor on the Mac.

    I'm going to do some research into soundcards and mixers, then when I've decided on which bits to buy, no doubt I'll be on here tapping the knowledge base to help me get it working!!!

    Thanks for your advice so far chaps!!!
    Yeah ill be happy to help later.. Sorry about your Mac Purchase ;0

    Windows Updates, turn off search indexing, turn off hibernate, update drivers, clean install dont use it for anything but music... Ive never had an issue with a windows machine like I did in the Serato/Traktor days of my MBP

    Same hardware these days, and every machine I build is higher speced and anywhere from 1 to 2k cheaper To each their own, I realy cant stand their price and the OS
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    Why dont u run Traktor & Ableton on the same laptop and have a controller controlling Ableton for your mate, or however you want. This can be used for FX, triggering clips, non CPU hungry synths. So long as you dont use FX that rape the CPU, youre good. If you really need a 2nd monitor for visuals on what clips youre triggering, you can always get a small portable one and split screen the display using VGA/HDMI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Moo View Post
    Why dont u run Traktor & Ableton on the same laptop and have a controller controlling Ableton for your mate, or however you want. This can be used for FX, triggering clips, non CPU hungry synths. So long as you dont use FX that rape the CPU, youre good. If you really need a 2nd monitor for visuals on what clips youre triggering, you can always get a small portable one and split screen the display using VGA/HDMI.
    I don't think that my Mac would be happy with all that going on, it's only a 2.1gb dualcore with 4gb of RAM... It's happy running Traktor, and I don't get any problems ever and I want to keep it that way.

    I want maximum flexibility and functionality that's why using 2 separate machines is what I want to do... My mate used to be Eddie Halliwells manager and I was speaking to him yesterday, he tells me that it's possible with the right equipment.

    I go on holiday at the end of March, when I get back I'm going to sort it.

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