CDJ 2000 Nexus finally here

**Jane** · 09-06-2012, 06:13 PM

Still reading so many angry and negative posts about mainly the Sync on various places.

But just read Kutski's post and tbh am very much agreeing with him

"A lot of people moaning that the new CDJ2000 mk2 have sync... Do they not know if you just slide the pitch so the BPM reads the same on both CDJ's it basically does the same already? #NotThatBiggerDeal"

**GeekGod** · 09-06-2012, 10:07 PM

So over on DigitalDJTips they are claiming that the new CDJ2k basically 'pushes' content to the player. Does anyone have any info on this?

Honestly this is my only gripe with this new version ... Well except the price!

**DJ Highline** · 09-07-2012, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by deevey

Also

The Denon's engine software

A) Computer linked to player at all time
B) Uses the Ipad/laptop as the ONLY waveform display
c) IPad software Cannot work WITHOUT a laptop

While the Pioneer system

A) Works with an ipad Standalone.
B) Allows you to edit and prepare music with an Ipad ONLY
C) Already have a Gorgeous Display.

The way I see it, using Engine with Denon's machines is a necessity rather than a choice, at least if you want a waveform.

For me the real win is not requiring a laptop to play a gig.

Correction:

Engine
A) The SC2900/3900 are full standalone players, no laptop required to play on them. The player will do everything that is available in Engine by its self.

B) The SC2900/3900 both have waveforms on the built-in screen when analyzed by Engine, the same as Pioneer with Rekordbox. Granted the display on the CDJ-2000 is vastly superior..but waveform information is there on the player.

C) Engine can be fully run on an I-pad, Netbook or Laptop with no restrictions that I am aware of.

Pioneer

A) Like the SC2900/3900 you still need a wireless router to make it all work. Funny how when Denon introduced the I-pad thing everyone was screaming about needing to carry a router with them...how about now

that Pioneer is making you carry one with you...is it all good now?

B) Not sure if you can prep music on the I-pad with Engine but I don't see why this wouldn't be possible in a future version of Engine.

C) There is no denying that Denon dropped the ball here.

**djproben** · 09-07-2012, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Nicky H

Very underwhelmed, expected something amazing...

A lot of people are saying this - why would you expect something amazing? It's a CD player. For what it is it looks damn nice; like they finally got right what they were trying to do with the 2000.

**DJ Bob** · 09-07-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by djproben

A lot of people are saying this - why would you expect something amazing? It's a CD player. For what it is it looks damn nice; like they finally got right what they were trying to do with the 2000.

I think it's a great improvement on the mk1. Pioneer nailed a lot of things on this update it seems. The best just got a lot better...

**firebr4nd** · 09-07-2012, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by DJ Bob

I think it's a great improvement on the mk1. Pioneer nailed a lot of things on this update it seems. The best just got a lot better...

Yeah they actually added A LOT of features, and it's not even a completely new player.

**deevey** · 09-07-2012, 05:22 AM

A) The SC2900/3900 are full standalone players, no laptop required to play on them. The player will do everything that is available in Engine by its self.

Sorry, by standalone I had meant to actually run the Engine software you need a full computer running engine connected to them as well not just the iPad and nothing else.

B) The SC2900/3900 both have waveforms on the built-in screen when analyzed by Engine, the same as Pioneer with Rekordbox. Granted the display on the CDJ-2000 is vastly superior..but waveform information is there on the player.

Hadnt even noticed there were waveforms on the screen LOL they really are that bad.

C) Engine can be fully run on an I-pad, Netbook or Laptop with no restrictions that I am aware of.

The Ipad needs to be linked to an psyical computer over wireless to run engine though, not standalone.

A) Like the SC2900/3900 you still need a wireless router to make it all work. Funny how when Denon introduced the I-pad thing everyone was screaming about needing to carry a router with them...how about now that Pioneer is making you carry one with you...is it all good now?

Any installation that plans on using it will have a router dedicated to the DJ rig, never felt it was an issue.. having a wifi router built in would have been exceptionally handy though and cheap as chips to implement.

B) Not sure if you can prep music on the I-pad with Engine but I don't see why this wouldn't be possible in a future version of Engine.

You can but only so long as you are connected over wireless to the computer - thats its real limitation and something that I despised on first seeing the engine on ipad ... now I would eed to bring 2 computing devices to a gig rather than just an ipad

C) There is no denying that Denon dropped the ball here.

No Argument from here, I had posted up about the foreseeable issues I had with above Denon's Engine/2900/3900 ecosystem somewhere here before when it was released with engine.

Pioneer have pretty much nailed all the issues I had with the Denon system. Dont get me wrong I LOVE the Denon platters, I really like their mixers, and I loved the "idea" of their engine software, just felt that it was almost there - but not quite and as a result of that (along with lack of bigname support and marketing) will never be a "club standard" deck - and its a crying shame too.

**fullenglishpint** · 09-07-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by deevey

they have now made the transition from bedroom setup to the club a million times more within reasonable reach.

This says it for me. People say this isn't a big update, but as far as I'm concerned it's the first CDJ that rivals a modern software setup for features. (Bear in mind everything I'm about to say is related to traditional track mixing, not controllerism and the like).

We've talked for ages about the CDJ dying out and controllers replacing it, but let's face it a laptop is annoying to have to take to a gig. Someone could spill a drink on it, you could have any number of hardware or software malfunctions. Not to say that you will definitely have those problems, many of us use laptops for DJing and never have a hitch, but taking a laptop into a club environment is far from an ideal solution.

With these CDJs you now have what is essentially a big and expensive version of a traktor setup ready for you in a club, and all you need to bring is a USB stick or your phone/tablet. I know that you can use USB sticks with the 2000s and 900s but personally I really like having a scrolling waveform, quantised loops and all the rest of it. I've been using SSL for quite a while now so I'm used to doing without sync, but I don't think it's by any means a bad thing that it's there. As that Kutski post points out, 2000s read BPM info to 2 decimal places so sync is just a logical next step.

I think what we're seeing is Pioneer catching up with software and making the CDJ not just an alternative way of doing things but a comparable one feature wise. Y'all know about my gear addiction and that I own way too much stuff, but I'm really thinking of selling a load off and buying a pair of these.