"Crap for the masses" - What is that exactly?

[loverocket]

one more. SOLID ! :



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[dj matt blaze]

both those are classics and still get the crowd in a frenzy.....+2

[MaxOne]

I like this game.

Got to number 2 in the UK charts.

[deevey]

#1 in the Irish Charts for 10 weeks ... we win



In answer to the OP - crap for the masses IMHO is "music with little or no artistic merit created with the sole aim of money over quality"

[squidot]

In answer to the OP - crap for the masses IMHO is "music with little or no artistic merit created with the sole aim of money over quality"

i would somewhat agree with this, but at the same time there are people who love that music and many people at that. for them it is the farthest possible point from crap. so although the sole intention may have been money, it is still serving people well. i personally almost never say that something sucks or that it is crap because there is almost always going to be someone that loves it. in my eyes there are times for constructive criticism though, when new musicians are looking for feedback on technical issues in their works. outside of technical mistakes and maybe glaring key/writing issues most everything artistically related is almost entirely subjective.

i don't like a lot of songs, but that doesn't mean they are crap.

[deevey]

i would somewhat agree with this, but at the same time there are people who love The music industries Marketing and many people at that. for them it is the farthest possible point from crap.

Fixed that for you

[scamo]

In answer to the OP - crap for the masses IMHO is "music with little or no artistic merit created with the sole aim of money over quality"

Ok, that is one definition of "crap for the masses". Along with....

Simply put, "crap for the masses" is anything whether it be music, movies, tv, fashion, food, that takes an original idea or concept that a certain group of people may love and waters it down, commericalizes it for the rest of the world. 1 person does it, then everyone is doing it. Its always been this way and it will always be this way. Its just human nature to see success and try to copy it using the same or similar formula.

The original idea that was being copied was also quite popular, wasn't it? Otherwise it wouldn't be copied right? So wasn't the original idea or art form crap too, because it was popular? Or was it so crappy that soooo many people liked it and because it was so successful (but crappy too), people also wanted to produce more crap? I don't get it.

Anyway.....

Can anyone put up some clear examples of these definitions? Then we can see who actually thinks it is poor and why.

scamo

[jakeintox]

Hows this?

Original=



Crap for the masses=


Now, as to whether or not the original is crap or not....

[TCMuc]

Obviously the majority likes it and doesn't think its shit or else it wouldn't be popular.

If popularity and/or commercial success were actual indicators for quality, McDonalds had to be selling the best food in the world...


Or to put it somewhat different with the words of Mark Twain:

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

crap for the masses IMHO is "music with little or no artistic merit created with the sole aim of money over quality"

This.

And as to squidot's reply I'd like to refer to my first statement in this post and add: just because somebody likes it doesn't mean it's not crap.

Hows this?

Original=



Crap for the masses=

Sorry if I have to disappoint you, but Avicii is exactly what people mean when they are talking about "crap for the masses" in EDM.


So let me fix this for you:

Original=



Crap for the masses=




Some clown, who is even considered crap by people who else mistake crap for originality=

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[SethLex]

Well, i think you said it yourself. "My opinion is better than yours/Everyone has their own tastes and opinions." It aint no mo than that, it´s the same all the time, have ya ever heard the good old "haters gonna hate"? and oh, just got this in my mind, i think it´s a kind of a meme, like, a social phenomen, its COOL to be hating on some pretty damn good music(because it´s popular).
Dunno, but still...