Soft takeover function.
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  1. #1
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    Default Soft takeover function.

    I have been really getting into your 2.5 mapping but there is one thing I can’t figure out how to toggle.

    I need to have the "soft takeover" function be reimplemented into my mapping.

    In the original mapping of the VCI if you changed a parameter with your mouse, then wanted to change it with your controller it would only be recognized once it reached current settings in traktor avoiding a harsh jump in volume, eq, or any other parameter.

    Common Example for me of issue:

    In four deck mode:
    Lets say I have tracks playing in decks A&B. I switch over to deck D to bring in a loop. I am now controlling deck D and bring the volume fader down to an acceptable level for the mix of the sample I just brought in. The problem arises once I switch back to deck B and want to turn the volume up a lil, it jumps down to the setting from deck D that was much lower and screws up the mix with a jarring change in levels.

    Leon R. told me that he never needed to have this be part of the mapping but how else would you avoid the problem I am running into. Maybe there is a technique or way of dealing that I am unaware of.

    Please help!!!! This has been really killing my buzz with this program and mapping and can’t figure out what is the cause.

    Thanks.

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    Hey "Chopper",

    there you are

    Ok, I barely use 4 deck control and when I do I quickly move the volume line fader and do not combinate mouse and controlle(like you do)r to do so.

    For example If I bring down the volume on deck a to 50% and switch to deck b the volume in traktor on deck b will be at max while my controller fader is still at 50%. If I then move the fader slowly the volume line fader in traktor will jump to 50% and move in the direction I am moving the controller line fader. To avoid that I can either quickly move the fader up to 100% barely hearing the volume jump or enable "soft takeover".
    With soft takeover (in my example) after switching to deck b I can move the volume fader up on my controller until it reaches the volume level in traktor (100% in my example) and then begin to control the volume the fader. If I were to switch back to deck a I would have to move my controler fader to 50% before being able to change the volume with the fader.

    From what I understand you want soft takeover on the volume faders, right?
    Last edited by Leon.R; 01-14-2010 at 07:20 PM. Reason: typo
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    Hey Leon,
    That is exactly right, soft takeover for faders and knobs is what I'm after.

    I want to eliminate the use of my mouse entirely. I use 3-4 tracks quite often and this was the missing adjustment needed to have all necessary parameters of control for 4 decks without the assisted use of the mouse.

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    Hi Joezohar,

    ok then.
    I have tried soft takeover out a few times....
    I can see it working with the line faders but i often forget having eq knobs set or did not turn them far enough in the needed direction to gain control over the knob for the activated deck during a quick mix... I also hated constantly starring At the screen to see my EQ settings...

    Soft Takeover setup: Not home at the moment so I can't tell you how to set that up.
    If no one posts the way to set it to the faders etc. untill saturday I will try to have a look into it if I make it home this weekend (business trip).
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    Check soft takeover on each knob/fader command entry in your midi mapping section.
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    softtakeover is nice in theory, but NI needs to make it a lot more obvious visually when its blocking.
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    Thanks guys, was able to get it working for most of the commands I needed.
    I appreciate the breakdown of why I wouldn't want to use soft takeover versus wanting to and have a better understanding of how I would apply it if needed.

    You guys are amazing. The service on these forums are incredible and will continue to support you guys in all your endeavors. Looks like it might be midi fighter time. Thanks for caring guys and know that you have gained a loyal supporter.

    Cheers!

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