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    VCI-100SE or Kontrol X1 + Mixer

    What would you guys get? I'd like to hear from people who play out a lot. I am thinking of the VCI but am on the fence as I am used to a traditional DJ setup. What are the pro's and cons and does the VCI-100SE live up to the hype.

    My goal is 2 - 4 decks plus maschine to add elements. I primarily play house and techie stuff.

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    The VCI 100 SE pretty much does everything. You can control 4 decks, but it can be tricky as there are two volume faders and jog wheels. I would pick the VCI 100 SE though there will be an adjustment period as you are used to a traditional setup.

    See Ean's video for a complete walkthrough of the functionalities of the VCI 100 SE + new mapping
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    I have an SE and a Kontrol 1. Perfect pair. But if you have Maschine use that. I have Maschine and the only reason I bought and X1 is because I'm a gear head. But the Maschine can do the same thing as an X1, you just need to spend time on mapping it.

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    How are you guys using the VCI in a club? Do you use the clubs mixer or do you use the vci faders? Also, do you beatgrid or use the jog wheel? Does the jogwheel react like a cdj-1000?
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    i think choosing between those two options really boils down to your preference to mix in the box or outside....

    me personally, I prefer mixing externally, not saying that's better, but it's better for me cause that's what i'm comfortable with

    my advice try both ITB and OTB and see which one's for you

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    I prefer out of the box but I am limited on funds right now....Maybe i'll stack my chips for a few months and get a xone 42 or a djm-700. The game is changing so much it confuses the sh_t out of me (gear wise).

    I had some great gigs using ableton live but the club thought it wasn't "true DJ'ing (Huge club in Miami BTW)". So I turned back to using Traktor using timecode which I really enjoy. Although to be honest I've never had so much fun playing like when I would use live, something about remixing tracks on the fly that was amazing. That said I feel traktor is a happy medium between Ableton and straight up cds. I am confused to say the least, I have been playing nearly 20 years and I love where the art is going. Back in the day it was 2 turntables and a mixer...later CDJ's and a rane 2016 in clubs...then CDJ's and a DJM 800...now: what now? LOL

    I guess all in all the goal is always the same...get the crowd moving and screaming like wackos. I have played for 20 - 3000 people and have loved every minute. Where does this journey go next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeatzz View Post
    How are you guys using the VCI in a club? Do you use the clubs mixer or do you use the vci faders? Also, do you beatgrid or use the jog wheel? Does the jogwheel react like a cdj-1000?
    I play with an echo audiofire 2 and the VCI faders.
    It's easier to set up and it's painless if the mixer isn't a good one. This solution is extremely light (one bag) and for bars, it's almost ideal.
    NOTA : If you've planed to play with other guys/systems at the same time, then you could consider to connect the audio outs thru the mixer (but you'll need a 4 outs soundcard)

    If you mix 4 kicks electronic stuffs, you'll be in sync within seconds with the sync/beatgrid function and platers are just here for exact matching of the 2 kicks (depends on the kick attack/botom and the groove of the tracks you mix) or Fader fx mode. it lets you more time for tricking the sound, looping stuffs and adding some fxs and finally to be more creative (as Ean does, for example)


    The jogs react the same way CDJ's do but they are far smaller than CDJ's. In my opinion, it doesn't get long to get used to it.
    Last edited by slyooney; 03-31-2010 at 10:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeatzz View Post
    I prefer out of the box but I am limited on funds right now....Maybe i'll stack my chips for a few months and get a xone 42 or a djm-700. The game is changing so much it confuses the sh_t out of me (gear wise).
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    Then, you should consider a VCI 100 and a 4 outs soundcard (NI audioDJ 4/8 ?)
    This option lets you wild open for the mixing in/out question.
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    If I had my time back I would do the VCI and both external and internal route. It really depends on the club/the mixer/the amout of space. So that way you can decide if you want to mix external or internal when you show up. Mixing internal is great becuase everything feels so naturally because your used to it. From my experience mixing externally is not really an advantage in any way if your still using 4 decks??? It just makes other DJ's happy because they see that your still like them and use the club mixer. But for four deck use, external is key with the VCI 100.
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    hey man, i live in Miami as well....down by dadeland. Send your contact info. I have a vci-100 and a trigger finger ive been using and just got myself two x1's and a xone 42. both have pros and cons. Honestly right now seeing the scene here the way it is (and I don't play at clubs) I can't see taking a VCI to a club down here regardless of how good the music is. Hit me up, if your by my neighborhood and I got some free time you can check them out.

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