Propellerhead Reason or Ableton?

[Bunford]

Which is best for the production side of music? Namely, creating electro and dubstep.

Just wondering what people opinions are. Been delving into both today and it's a steep learning curve, but definitely getting there!

[frenzykitty]

I love Reason. Both are different, and take different approaches to production. Start with Reason. It teaches good fundamentals, and will ease the transition into Ableton if you decide to go down that route.

[Bunford]

The most infuriating things I think about reason is the inability to use the full screen. Drives me insance when trying to write in midi notes etc!

[frenzykitty]

Window -> Detach Sequencer Window

[Kobbe]

Reason is the most logic DAW if youre new to the whole thing. And the best part with it is that it can be as complex or as simple as you want it to be. A tip is to get the Reason/record duo. Records mixer wonderful (I could buy Recort for the mixer alone), its nice to be able to use audioclips without having to import them into samples, the Line 6 distortion devices sound wonderful and it supports dual processors whitch (I think) Reason alone doesnt. And it can run the racks in fullscreen too.

Ive been using Reason since v.3, and Ive never been disappointed.

[Kh3MiC4L]

reason is even more fun when you start to leanr how to route your signal when you press TAB. You can create infinite possibilities and its would be the same way with hardware. Dont forget you can use both in REWIRE ...the best of both wolrd

[Bunford]

I've been experimenting with rewiring the entire rack all of today! Some good , some not so good!

[jasonj]

The most infuriating things I think about reason is the inability to use the full screen. Drives me insance when trying to write in midi notes etc!

Use both. You can set up reason as a ReWire Client inside Ableton. Then all your notes can be passed from Ableton into Reason and the Audio routed back into a channel of Ableton. There are tons of tutorials on youtube.com on how to achieve this.

However I would use Ableton first. Easy to learn and can perform complex tasks.

[Bunford]

I figured it all out earlier. Easy enough. However, I hit issues when I made a dubstep drum loop, then tried to insert a Rex loop via the doc to overlay the loop I'd made. But couldn;t figure out how to edit the rex loop to customise and fit with my loop and play back through Ableton. Might even be impossible!?

[Bunford]

Playing with both all day today. I like the flexibility of Reason. I like that you can build a rack, and use combinators to have a synth/instrument directly linked to effects and chained how you want etc. That means you can easily master each instrument as you go.

However, Ableton interface and usability seems much friendlier and easier to use. If Ableton had the ability of the 'rack' from Ableton it'd be almost perfect I'd say.

Looks like rewiring Reason into Ableton it's gonna be then. Now just gotta crack mastering the dubstep sounds!