Getting MF to send a midi msg when pressed and when released

[theorist]

Hello

what i want to do is to have the midi fighter send a midi signal when pressed and to repeat the same signal when released. Is this possible and if so how is it possible?
Please bare in mind i have FA knowledge on how to program on of these things.

The reason i want to do this is because I would like momentary control over the effects in ableton. So that when i press and hold the MF button a effect is activated and then deactivated on release.

I have looked at using dummy tracks but this seems like a lot of ho ha as it requires for a dry button that has to be used to deactivated the effect (please correct me if i am wrong on this and if so how to do this properly). Plus it will swap the effect activated effect for another meaning that chaining effects on the MF is not possible.

Take it easy

[No Left Turn]

What you need to do is have the MIDI Fighter not send note data and instead send MIDI CC's when pressing a button.

I verified this using a TouchOSC layout that I also use to have a MIDI Fighter on my iPad. When the buttons were assigned to a note (C1, C#1, etc.), I would have to press the button to turn the effect on and then press it again to turn it off. When I changed the button to a MIDI CC, I could press and hold the button to keep the effect on and then upon release of the button the effect would turn off.

Hope that helps.

[theorist]

Firstly thank you for the quick reply, most appreciate. It does however lead me onto another question

How to get the midi fighter to send cc data instead of notes? Just had a quick look at the manual and it was not mentioned in it.

cheers again

[No Left Turn]

I have no idea. I'm not even sure if the MIDI Fighter has that functionality.

I just know that in Live, that's how you would be able to achieve that kind of functionality.

[theorist]

Cheers again for help and quick reply.

If anyone knows how to change the midi notes to midi cc please let me know or if one of the software designers is reading this could you please tell me how to add this to the MF fighter menu.

[fullenglishpint]

It's not possible, all you can change is the midi channel, but luckily that's not necessary anyways.

The midifighter already sends a button off signal as that's the way midi works, rather than send constant data while a button is held it uses on (usually 127) notes and off (zero) notes.

All you need to do is map your release command to the button but tick the 'invert' box at the bottom. It will then activate on release as opposed to press.

[fullenglishpint]

oops shit just read your post again and realised you're using ableton.

Don't know a massive amount about ableton midi mapping, but it's still true that the buttons output a note=0 command on release.

If you really do need CCs, Bome's midi translator is probably your best bet.

[sidetrakd]

Cheers again for help and quick reply.

If anyone knows how to change the midi notes to midi cc please let me know or if one of the software designers is reading this could you please tell me how to add this to the MF fighter menu.

Its just a few minor changes in the firmware,can do it for you later tonight if you need.

[theorist]

hello sidetrakd, yes yes yes please if you could that would be amazing!

a thousands thank you's

[sidetrakd]

Here you go.I couldnt test it though,my midifighters fried!Let me know how it goes