Behringer BCD3000 or Vestax Spin?

[aghastlykid]

Okay, so i'm going to buy my first DJ controller. I've been into producing music for a while, mostly on Ableton Live. Recently i've got into DJing, right now I use my M Audio Oxygen-49 on VDJ. But it's kind of awkward to use on a DJ program for me, and I also need a soundcard so i'm getting one of these 2.

I use windows 7, VDJ right now but I would like to upgrade to Traktor. and I don't scratch.

So maybe you guys who know more about it can help me out. Which would be better? it's a tough choice for me.
BCD3000 has a lot of extra knobs and buttons for effects and etc, but it's kind of clunky and ugly looking.
I like the build of Vestax Spin a lot better, but it lacks buttons and knobs.
and i'm kind of worried about the Spin because I'm on windows, and it's designed for Mac. but from what i've gathered i can still map it to VDJ and Traktor.
If someone could confirm on that too that would be great.

Thanks

[Snapface]

Can't really help you choose - but what I can say is that if you're thinking of switching to Traktor, and running Windows - I'd go for the Vestax Typhoon rather than Spin. It's essentially the same thing, just designed for Windows/Traktor use.

[fullenglishpint]

I'd look at a Numark mixtrack pro.

Other than that, as far as I'm aware, the spin and typhoon are pretty much the same other than the included mac software with the spin.

[aghastlykid]

Ok thanks guys. Yeah i'm also looking into Mixtrack or Mixtrack pro now, i've heard a lot of good things about it.
it just looks kind of cheap to me, but if it functions well it doesn't really matter.

another question though, if i were using Spin or Typhoon would i be able to plug it into and use an external mixer with it? and also still be able to cue?
i'm new to this, sorry if it's a dumb question

[ToOntown]

Might want to look into the Novation Twitch too. I'm excited about that one.

[aghastlykid]

Oh yeah the novation twitch looks amazing, i just saw the demo vid for it the other day. My jaw pretty much dropped. the amount you can do with it is crazy.

If only i had the money for it!

[marc.elektro]

You should buy a Mixtrack and an audio 2 dj. That way you can upgrade to a better controller when you have the funds if you feel like it.

[aghastlykid]

Ok thanks, yeah that is a good idea.

I have a question though, would i be able to plug the Vestax Spin or Typhoon into a mixer? does the soundcard allow me to do that, or can it only be plugged right into speakers?

So basically what i'm asking is, am i able to plug the Spin (or any controller with a built in soundcard) into a mixer and then use the outputs on the mixer to go into speakers? and still be able to cue songs as well?

i'm not really sure of the capabilities of a DJ controller entirely.
I'm not into scratching, I prefer using midi controllers. but i would like to be able to use a mixer with a controller.

so if someone could help me out by answering that, that'd be great

[fullenglishpint]

You could, but there's a but.

You need a sound card with 4 output channels (2x stereo), which the spin has, but only one has an RCA connection, the other is a headphone jack. So to use it with an external mixer you'd have to get an adapter and have it permanently plugged into the headphone socket.

You can just use the controller's mixer controls with the internal mixer on whichever software you want to use though.

[aghastlykid]

Oh ok, I understand. Thanks english

so if i got another soundcard like Audio 2DJ and use the built in soundcard on the controller as well, i'd be able to use a mixer with it normally? or would i need a bigger soundcard with more outputs?