28-30Hz and below

[supracg]

So is it standard to cut every thing below 30 Hz on the master? Even if you're producing fairly subbass heavy EDM music, like dirty dutch etc..or should u just eq a small cut at those frequencies?

I don't want to cut out the low frequencies and have it have a lot less rumble on big speakers in clubs etc.

Thanks, any tips are appreciated

[Cardell]

Whoah hold it. Dirty dutch is not an EDM genre usually characterized by sub bass tones (or even low bass). Not saying that it wouldn't work, and there are examples that prove otherwise, but it is not what most people would would deem as something prominent with dirty dutch. Instead you're more likely to bring up the drums, percussion elements, pitching, cut vocals and change in melodies that can occur in dutch house (including dirty dutch).

Personally I wouldn't cut the bass at all, as for where you intend to play it, it's likely that the subwoofer will be able to properly handle (even if not advertised to be able to) frequencies down to possibly 5Hz. I am sorely disappointed every time I go to a club, hear a track I love, and first then realize the difference the lack of sub base makes as you are often more (physically) occupied by the music in a club with larger speakers, most notably the difference in bass response.

Unless it impairs and distracts the listening experience on both small and larger speakers I would advise to keep it - this being said without knowing specifically what genre you are producing, or even more so, had listened to the track.

And make sure that if you convert it to mp3 you ensure that the codec doesn't filter out frequencies 10Hz and below, some programs do that by default, which is good for most people, but DJs actually might have a legitimate use for it.

[ctrld]

So is it standard to cut every thing below 30 Hz on the master?

yes. 30 Hz is very low and most PAs have a low cut at around 30 Hz anyway, so leaving anything below that in the mix is a waste.

[Nephew]

yes. 30 Hz is very low and most PAs have a low cut at around 30 Hz anyway, so leaving anything below that in the mix is a waste.

+1

ctrld and I think alike on a lot of topics it would seem

[Zac Kyoti]

It's not just a waste - unless very carefully handled, these frequencies can can introduce harmonic distortion and muddy up other parts of your mix, plus there's so much energy down there that you often have to reduce the overall output just to keep levels in check. Filter it out for a louder, punchier mix, unless you really know what you're doing and need to keep those frequencies for whatever reason.

[supracg]

Okay thanks, I actually tried it and compared and your right, it does give a little more punch and loudness to the track without..should I also cut from 28 below in my subbass tracks as well or just cut it on the master? (Since a high cut on the master can only do so much, correct me if I'm wrong)

My tracks have a lot of subbass in them like a afrojack, r3hab type style if that helps

Thanks guys

[Lambox]

should I also cut from 28 below in my subbass tracks as well or just cut it on the master?

Just cut everything below 28Hz (or whatever frequency you deem lowest) on your master. There shouldn't be anything that low and especially if it's being caused by something other than your subbass, it will just muddy up your track and take up space.

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[seitz]

From my experience at a particular gig...(club gig i might add) the dj before me played one of his own songs and he did not cut the bass below 30...this particular club did not have a low cut around there and the speakers could not handle below 30 so he blew out the sub's