Jog wheel effects

[kooper1980]

With regards to the S2 behind the scenes vid on the main blog.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvUw...layer_embedded

Anyone know if the effects mapping is available for the S4? I really want my jogs to be as cool as that!!!

[photojojo]

There is no mapping available yet for the S2 or the S4. NI has said that most of the same mapping customizations will be available for the S4 when the new update comes out, but there will still be some things not the same. All we can do is wait and see unless someone with inside knowledge speaks up.

[padi_04]

Rainer has dropped a bit of critical info here: http://www.traktorbible.com/video/ne...ontrol-s4.aspx

He mentions that the S2 default mapping is closed like the S4 is today, so that means pretty much that those hoping to edit any of these controllers maps won't be getting it in the next update.

My guess is that the customization improvements might be allowing buttons to be set on knobs NHL mappings, like midi does. This kind of limitations in the current version is pretty annoying since you have to choose between resolution and advanced customization via MIDI (but makes sense for people who have no clue about mapping or just want to map simpler stuff). Give us an advanced mode with resizable window already!

[kooper1980]

But Ean says the mapping for the S2 is available on this website?

[padi_04]

Should be here once it's up http://www.djtechtools.com/midi-map/

Maybe he was just making the video future proof. It wouldn't make much sense to release a map for a controller that isn't even out yet.

[Yul]

My guess is that the customization improvements might be allowing buttons to be set on knobs NHL mappings, like midi does. This kind of limitations in the current version is pretty annoying since you have to choose between resolution and advanced customization via MIDI

I understand it is just a guess but I hope that will be implemented as it will mean true potential superknobs on the S4 (ie knob being able to change an effect unit, choose and engage effects which is currently not possible). That would be good news.

Gimme gimme gimme!!!!

[kooper1980]

damn i hope it comes out for the s4 as well. I love what is going on with the jogs in that vid!! fingers crossed!!

[padi_04]

Yul. you will have some porting work to do then

damn i hope it comes out for the s4 as well. I love what is going on with the jogs in that vid!! fingers crossed!!

I'm 80% sure what Ean does can be achieved today with the S4 and the current status of NHL since the button magic is all happening when the platter is pressed. Just use FX mode and tweak the acceleration for the different parameters like he does.

[Yul]

Talking about the S4, I'm 95% sure you cant' come currently with a system that would be 1/ consistent (whatever the decks layout) and 2/ that would work 100% of the time . Not feasible.
because 1/ there's no consistency on the load button that engages the fx mode for the jogwheel, depending on the type of deck you're using (that's just dumb NI).
2/ there are too many layers and events that can affect the jogwheel and you cant' reproduce those with a user mapping. Not possible with the controller manager.

Of course I'm talking here of a user mapping working in conjunction with the native one.
On the other hand it's quite easy to implement with a full user mapping just to do that but that would be 'meh' to loose all the functions and led feedback from the embedded mapping.


I'm going to repost it here just in case some didn't see it, sorry for the others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze2j3g5Bxiw
So I worked upon an half solution but that can work only for a defined layout and that prevents you to use the copy mode, which is a pain in the a..

[kooper1980]

Yul. you will have some porting work to do then




I'm 80% sure what Ean does can be achieved today with the S4 and the current status of NHL since the button magic is all happening when the platter is pressed. Just use FX mode and tweak the acceleration for the different parameters like he does.

Yeah gonna give that a go when I get my s4 back from NI!!