s4/Audio 10/Pioneer DJM800 Setup Help!

**kryptonitekillz** · 12-14-2011, 08:59 PM

I am a recent convert to TSP from Serato and am loving everything so far. So many possibilities! My setup is pretty complex and I am hoping to get some help.

This is my gear list:

Audio 10 - TSP2
Kontrol S4
2 Kontrol X1s
Maschine
Pioneer DJM 800
2 Technics 1210 MK5s

I need to know what you think the best setup would be. I put it all together tonight with my turntables taking up Channels 3 & 4 (Deck A & B) on the Audio 10. I thought I would just run the s4 (Decks C & D) to the input on Channel 2, but didn't think that I wouldn't be able to do that because I now am trying to use 2 soundcards.

So, my question is, what would you suggest? I want to still use my Pioneer 800 as my mixer with everything running through it. This is my layout represented with words:

Audio 10
Laptop - Kontrol X1 - Kontrol s4 - Kontrol X1 - Maschine
Turntable - Mixer - Turntable

Do I route the S4 THROUGH the Audio 10? Do I get rid of the Audio 10?? I am at a loss.

Thanks so much!

**str80180** · 12-14-2011, 10:20 PM

If you have enough power with your computer you could run both traktor and ableton together by internally rerouting inputs and outputs inside the box with a program like soundflower or jack. This will allow multitrack recording of your mixes, vst effects as well as easily letting you use your maschine as well, id keep the audio 10, soundcards are pretty useful peices of kit. There are quite a few different but very fucking respectable setups you could have with all your different gear, i would experiment and see what you like the most.

A soundcard Aggregator might help you do what you want to do with your s4 as it will make multiple soundcards appear as one soundcard to your computer.

**kryptonitekillz** · 12-14-2011, 11:20 PM

A sound card aggregator? Any suggestions for which one? I've just never heard of that before.

I actually think I am going to run Ableton and Traktor as suggested. I just really want to be able to use the tables for decks 1 & 2 and the S4 for 3 & 4. I will use the X1s and Maschine for live remixing and effects/cues/loops/etc.

Thanks for the advice! Anyone else?

**kryptonitekillz** · 12-14-2011, 11:45 PM

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3956

This MAY be my solution. But can I route the Audio correctly? Turntables to 2 decks and S4 decks to the others?

**str80180** · 12-15-2011, 01:27 AM

Ahh, i've just read that by aggregating soundcards you will actually loose timecode ability, because the soundcard you will be selecting in preferences won't be traktor certified, so that probably won't be the solution, tried the s4 with timecodes?

**str80180** · 12-15-2011, 01:33 AM

You should in theory be able to run all 4 decks through the audio 10 and mixer and use the s4 purely as a controller, without having to run any audio cables from it, but ive never tried it so i can't say from experience.

**mostapha** · 12-15-2011, 02:22 AM

My honest suggestion is to ditch the S4. X1s and TSP give you more control unless you really need extra knobs and faders laid out like a mixer that you're not going to use.

But that's just my opinion, and I should point out that I hate all-in-one units because they seem to be really limiting.

Also, what are you using Maschine for? Is it just a controller, or are you actually using it as a groove box…because that slightly complicates the setup, depending on what you want to do.

**kryptonitekillz** · 12-15-2011, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by mostapha

My honest suggestion is to ditch the S4. X1s and TSP give you more control unless you really need extra knobs and faders laid out like a mixer that you're not going to use.

But that's just my opinion, and I should point out that I hate all-in-one units because they seem to be really limiting.

Also, what are you using Maschine for? Is it just a controller, or are you actually using it as a groove box…because that slightly complicates the setup, depending on what you want to do.

I don't know if you have seen DJ Endo's "Mothership" setting, but I was going to do something like that. Now that I think about It, it may make sense just to use the S4 and the X1s and just use the turntables in a true sense and not to control the time code.

Keep the suggestions coming, thx!

**kryptonitekillz** · 12-15-2011, 07:07 AM

Also, let's say I used the S4 and X1s and the tables just for scratching. Can I use my 800 as my mixer instead of the S4 mixer (i.e. output the S4 through the 800)?