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    Default I can't decide between S2 and S4...

    I already kind of made a thread about this, but I thought I'd get more precise feedback here.

    I'll be upgrading from a Numark Mixtrack Pro with Traktor because; no hotcues, no sampling, tedious loop cancelling, and very tools to utilize effects.

    If there is a thread that directly compares (like lists) the concrete differences between the two, I'll just delete this.

    But if anyone could, point out the differences between the two, or even give advice on what you think would be a better upgrade from the Mixtrack. My budget is fairly limited, but there is a "month old used lightly by an adult rarely" S4 on my local craigslist for 700$.

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    if you are just going to do Live DJing at a club you will more or less use 2 decks, are you going for more advance mixing and maybe some recording go for S4. I have S4 and love it

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    i owned the S4 for a whole year before selling it and buying the S2 due to several reasons (among them portability, not needing the 2 extra channels etc)

    you can read my review here

    the review was done when i bought the S2 at pretty much full retail price, with the current discount at the moment its a no brainer that the S2 is the ultimate value when it comes to 2 deck controllers

    do you really need 4 decks? Do you need smooth filters on all 4 decks? if yes then go for the S4, although for the current discount you can pretty much get 2 brand new S2's for less than the price of a brand new S4 , also do you really need timecode ? If you do you might want to consider getting the S2 + Audio 6 +Scratch upgrade instead for more options
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    Traktor Pro 2 / S2 MK2 / X1 MK2 / Audio6 / Pioneer HDJ2000 / Westone UM3X / rMBP 13 inch 2014 (2.8 GHz) / Focal Alpha 50

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    I think its a thing of taste... if you like to do a complex routine with lots of effects, and loops playing everywhere, and crazy tricks with faders and knobs.... well the s4 its your choice.... of course not too much portability and a your gonna need a bigger bag

    If you just want to play and mix 2 songs, scratching and have fun with it... well the s2 its perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nontablist View Post
    I think its a thing of taste... if you like to do a complex routine with lots of effects, and loops playing everywhere, and crazy tricks with faders and knobs.... well the s4 its your choice.... of course not too much portability and a your gonna need a bigger bag

    If you just want to play and mix 2 songs, scratching and have fun with it... well the s2 its perfect.
    eventually yeah, so is there any sense in getting another two deck controller with a very, very, similar layout/functionality? I just get this feeling the S2 is not that much more sophisticated than the Mixtrack, please prove me wrong haha.

    Does anyone foresee a deal on the S4 like we have on the S2 right now?


    Quote Originally Posted by DJZILCH View Post
    i owned the S4 for a whole year before selling it and buying the S2 due to several reasons (among them portability, not needing the 2 extra channels etc)

    you can read my review here

    the review was done when i bought the S2 at pretty much full retail price, with the current discount at the moment its a no brainer that the S2 is the ultimate value when it comes to 2 deck controllers

    do you really need 4 decks? Do you need smooth filters on all 4 decks? if yes then go for the S4, although for the current discount you can pretty much get 2 brand new S2's for less than the price of a brand new S4 , also do you really need timecode ? If you do you might want to consider getting the S2 + Audio 6 +Scratch upgrade instead for more options
    I'm only about halfway through but I had to come back to tell you, this is helping a lot!! I'm one of those people when it comes to buying something that I'm really into i can NEVER make a decision.
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    Thanks, glad it helped!
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    Traktor Pro 2 / S2 MK2 / X1 MK2 / Audio6 / Pioneer HDJ2000 / Westone UM3X / rMBP 13 inch 2014 (2.8 GHz) / Focal Alpha 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wday View Post
    eventually yeah, so is there any sense in getting another two deck controller with a very, very, similar layout/functionality? I just get this feeling the S2 is not that much more sophisticated than the Mixtrack, please prove me wrong haha.

    Does anyone foresee a deal on the S4 like we have on the S2 right now?




    I'm only about halfway through but I had to come back to tell you, this is helping a lot!! I'm one of those people when it comes to buying something that I'm really into i can NEVER make a decision.
    There are good deals out there on the S4 used (especially with a lot of people buying the VCI 400, it seems). I was just able to buy a (barely) used S4 for $550 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJZILCH View Post
    Thanks, glad it helped!
    Yeah, the part about it being too big (Although I wanted something big so it would look more professional) to bring around easily sound annoying.

    And I HATE when things like that scratch, the freaking metal ipod backings all over again?

    Quote Originally Posted by mcliffy2 View Post
    There are good deals out there on the S4 used (especially with a lot of people buying the VCI 400, it seems). I was just able to buy a (barely) used S4 for $550 shipped.
    I don't think deals like that are easy to come by... Unless someone wants to point me in the right direction.



    I'm thinking the wisest route here might be getting an S2 and then coupled with the F1 seeing as the F1 is being made to compliment the S2 greatly, but a price estimate on the F1 would be nice. Anyone?

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    I'm thinking the wisest route here might be getting an S2 and then coupled with the F1 seeing as the F1 is being made to compliment the S2 greatly, but a price estimate on the F1 would be nice. Anyone?
    I think you'll be really happy with that setup. That's exactly the setup I'm going for too.

    I'm gonna estimate the F1 to be around $200-$300 dollars, plus you'll need to upgrade traktor to be able to use it to it's full potential. Probably $80 for the upgrade.

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