Innofader Pro and Rane 56

[djlotus]

So here is the low down. I had a Vestax PMC-05 Pro 2 (it has a new home now). The fader on that monster was like a hot knife through butter. No resistance and a precise cut-off. No dead space. Freaking lovely.

Now I have my Rane 56. If I could make love to this mixer and have it's babies I would. But, the cross fader is starting to piss me off. There is about a 2-3 mm dead space on either side. I know it's not much but when doing delayed crabs and chirps, it is a real pisser.

Has anyone installed an Innofader on a Rane 56, and was it worth $150 to rid yourself of the dead space?

I am not interested in any "credit card" mod type fixes.

[hipnopath]

http://skratchworx.com/rf_faders.php

[djlotus]

I may have missed it as it is 2:20 am here, but I didn't see in that article anything that addressed the dead space. I certainly don't want to create bleeding by messing with the springs.

[hipnopath]

I may have missed it as it is 2:20 am here, but I didn't see in that article anything that addressed the dead space. I certainly don't want to create bleeding by messing with the springs.

Bleeding isn't caused by the spring, it's caused by the magnetic sensors.

"If you find that your fader is bleeding, you need to move the sensor towards the fader body (the brown thing that houses the magnet remember?). It doesn't take much, perhaps 0.5mm at the most. To do this, Rane recommend the end of a paperclip but I use watchmakers screwdrivers. As well as fixing the bleed, this technique can also be used to fine tune the lag to your own style. However, the finer you try to have the lag, the chances are you'll introduce bleed so again, be careful when doing this"

[djlotus]

Are they saying I can adjust the position of the sensors to account for the dead space? I feel like a dumb ass not reading that in there.

[djproben]

For what it's worth, I've used both faders and I like the Rane a lot better. The innofader is more easily adjusted, and it is certainly an amazing fader -- both of them are smooth as butter. If you prefer a heavier fader, the innofader is for you - to me I like the lightness of the Rane fader, still heavy enough so you don't feel like it's going to fly apart, but nice and light and best of all, no click or bang against the wall of the mixer like you have with most other faders. Innofader clicks though not as bad as a vestax or something.

I realize this doesn't address your question at all I do think the Rane cut-in length is adjustable but I can't understand the above paragraph how to do it either... On the innofader it's a piece of cake, turn a tiny screw.

[djlotus]

I took out the fader and cleaned it. It wasn't too dirty. Both rubber washers on either end are in good condition still. I looked through the manual and found no way to fine tune it.

Something else I noticed is just before the stopping point, on both sides, at 3 mm it is at full gain. At 2mm it drops to about 20% gain, and at 1mm it cuts off. Does this seem correct? It doesn't seem correct to me.

[djproben]

^^^ I recall reading somewhere that that was a design decision (not with precise measurements like that; it just said they had decided even the on/off setting on the crossfader would have a slight slope). I don't remember why though...