copyright every msec of a song?!

[basspenetrator]

just found this amazing protest action against the german RIAA.
johannes kreidler composed a 33sec song with 70200 samples and tried to register them.

vid is in german with engl subs..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAptRZlwziA

here's the website of the guy: http://www.kreidler-net.de/productplacements-e.html


as well he made "Melodies derived from Stock charts, arranged with Microsoft Songsmith
The Billion-Dollar-Song, the most expensive piece of music ever."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BZfFakpzc


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i'm always impressed by the creativity of some protest actions. hopefully it will succeed..

[BentoSan]

i think someone posted about this a while back

[basspenetrator]

i think someone posted about this a while back

really? did some searching in the forum before posting but didn't find anything..

[Tigris]

Unfortunately he was turned down: Only Samples longer than 10 seconds need to be registered.
Still, GEMA in .de is ridiculous; they even want to charge you for non-commercial PodCasts etc...

[Karlos Santos]

Im glad he failed. What an absolute waste of time.
If he works at GEMA and he knows the system and why it is arcane and stupid , instead of this publicity stunt to get himself well know he should work within trying to make changes and make the system better.

Its far easier to go "This is shit and i can prove it" than it is to go "This is shit and ive got a better solution"

If he dont like it , he should make it better.

If its true that anything less than 10secs isnt counted and he didnt know then hes fucking stupid. He obviously didnt do his homework.

[basspenetrator]

can't agree with you karlos.
just to clear up:

he's just a member at GEMA (like most producers/bands are), which means he has to register his work there. he's not working for them. as a normal member, you cannot really change this whole system, if you don't make it public. and without any creative idea to sell to the media, nobody would recognize you.

he actually has solutions, like e.g. a "culture flatrate".

in the old register form it says that "borrowed material must be mentioned, no matter how small it may be", i'm just guessing that GEMA changed the form, searching for more info right now..

[Karlos Santos]

Ah that would make more sense. My bad..!

As long as hes putting forward solutions as well as highlighting the problem then im all for it. I like to see people making things work better not just pointing out that they dont work.

Seems like GEMA moved the goal-posts (as we English say) just to fuck with his project.

[basspenetrator]

no worries man.. what's that goal-posts-thing?

this guy is a controllerist!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qMe3xwDio

[Karlos Santos]

yeah sorry that's a very English saying . It means changing the rules just to suit themselves.
GEMA probably changed the law to make the guys action redundant.

[basspenetrator]

no problem.. thought it would mean something like you said.. so i'm learning english sayings as well on this forum..