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    Default Problems with Indication of loops - APC40

    Hi guys, my very first post. I try to build up my custom mapping in Traktor.

    I managed to assign range of variously long loops via loop size select and set. I am now trying to come up with very simple LED system - green light - loop is off, red light - loop is on.

    I have assigned out midi signals with the same name, same note, managed to change controller and midi range but now if I press any loop, all loop buttons turn red, not just the one pressed.

    I tried to play with condition is in loop and set two outs, each with different setting but it still does not work.


    Probably really trivial but could you guys help me? Cheers

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    Unclick "Blend".

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    Quote Originally Posted by padi_04 View Post
    Unclick "Blend".
    Blend has not been checked in any of the commands. Still not working. Do you simply use select size and set, use according tone and that's it?

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    Do you use this values in controller range?

    /32 - 0
    /16 - 1
    /8 - 2
    /4 - 3
    /2- 4
    1 - 5
    2 - 6
    4 - 7
    8 - 8
    16 - 9
    32 - 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewe View Post
    Do you use this values in controller range?

    /32 - 0
    /16 - 1
    /8 - 2
    /4 - 3
    /2- 4
    1 - 5
    2 - 6
    4 - 7
    8 - 8
    16 - 9
    32 - 10
    Yes, I have read that earlier. I have my midi out set at the same note, loop size select + size, controller range 1 1, midi range 1 3, set for 1/16 loop. When I press it, the loop is on but the pad is still green. I am using APC40 in dumb bode.

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    Yeah the problem arises as each selector is still part of the whole looper. When an out that sets the looper as on or off will trigger all the lights that use the same, you can half ass it with loop size selector to show just the loop size and use another button to symbolize the loop being turned on. Other than that you could go in to modifier heaven and end up using a modifier for each loop size and place a mod out to the colors you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souvlaki View Post
    Yeah the problem arises as each selector is still part of the whole looper. When an out that sets the looper as on or off will trigger all the lights that use the same, you can half ass it with loop size selector to show just the loop size and use another button to symbolize the loop being turned on. Other than that you could go in to modifier heaven and end up using a modifier for each loop size and place a mod out to the colors you wish.

    Yeah, I have got another button indicating loop on/off. Could you elaborate a bit and give me an example how to set up modifiers for each loop so they light up individually? Would appreciate that!

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    I saw this request before but never actually have multicolor LED controller to test it out in both colors.



    Not showing DJ skills here btw.

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    Ok assuming that you have an abundance of modifiers, I would believe that there you will need 1 modifier if you use 7 loop levels or 2 modifiers if you use more. So first set the input, say 1/16th beat loop. then add a modifier in, set the modifier 1 equal to 1. Then 1/8th can be modifier 1 equal to 2. Follow this setup until you run out of modifiers saving 2 of them. I will save 0 in this example. Then save another depending on whether or not its in a page so it can be canceled out.

    If you have more than 7 loops start on modifier 2 and do the above.

    On the loops attached to modifier 1, add modifier 2 equal to 0.
    On the loops attached to modifier 2, add modifier 1 equal to 0.

    Now for your outputs. Use two of the active loop on outputs on each loop button. For when you want the light to turn red. Turn blend off set min and max controller range to 1 and min and max midi range to 3. Set the modification to M1=1.

    For green set controller range to both 0 and midi range to both 1. Set the modification to M1=0.

    Do this for the rest the loop buttons. So in the example above 1/8th the modification will be M1=2, and so on.

    What this effectively does is split apart the the loop size and loop on. This will work best if the button you press turns the loop on and off, which is what I assume you are doing.
    Last edited by Souvlaki; 10-24-2012 at 09:29 AM. Reason: clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souvlaki View Post
    Ok assuming that you have an abundance of modifiers, I would believe that there you will need 1 modifier if you use 7 loop levels or 2 modifiers if you use more. So first set the input, say 1/16th beat loop. then add a modifier in, set the modifier 1 equal to 1. Then 1/8th can be modifier 1 equal to 2. Follow this setup until you run out of modifiers saving 2 of them. I will save 0 in this example. Then save another depending on whether or not its in a page so it can be canceled out.

    If you have more than 7 loops start on modifier 2 and do the above.

    On the loops attached to modifier 1, add modifier 2 equal to 0.
    On the loops attached to modifier 2, add modifier 1 equal to 0.

    Now for your outputs. Use two of the active loop on outputs on each loop button. For when you want the light to turn red. Turn blend off set min and max controller range to 1 and min and max midi range to 3. Set the modification to M1=1.

    For green set controller range to both 0 and midi range to both 1. Set the modification to M1=0.

    Do this for the rest the loop buttons. So in the example above 1/8th the modification will be M1=2, and so on.

    What this effectively does is split apart the the loop size and loop on. This will work best if the button you press turns the loop on and off, which is what I assume you are doing.
    Thanks a lot man, I was hoping someone will show it to me step by step. Although it does not work, haha. Once I set the in modifiers to m1=1 and m2=0, it is no longer working. If I set it to M1=0, M2=0 the loop button works again. The LED lighting is gone for any of those settings (might be because of two outs?)

    EDIT: I have changed the outputs from "size select + set" to "loop active on". However, when I set modifier1 to any other value than 1, its stuck and the loop button stops working.
    Last edited by jarabmx; 10-24-2012 at 02:44 PM.

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