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    Ive only just started recording and my mixes arnt really quit but quiet enough even tho there hitting the red bars on traktor i noticed on the mixer part of traktor there is loads of little gains you can can some one tell whats the perfect to set them all at thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver Ste View Post
    Ive only just started recording and my mixes arnt really quit but quiet enough even tho there hitting the red bars on traktor i noticed on the mixer part of traktor there is loads of little gains you can can some one tell whats the perfect to set them all at thanks
    When you record in Traktor DO NOT let the record meter go into the red.

    Make sure you practice getting all your mix levels as even as you can by ear LIVE while your mixing.

    Good monitors at a moderate volume level will help you a lot.

    Then download Audacity and open your mix and normalize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loverocket View Post
    Good monitors at a moderate volume level will help you a lot.
    i love you guys to death around here , seriously but that advice is the worst thing you can tell to any newbie.
    Your ears never lie, and sound never lies to them.
    Use ur headphones, not monitors to listen to mix levels.

    Telling someone to use monitors is assuming they understand the science of sound wavs, and speaker placement.
    And most importantly, there is a higher percentage of newbies that think

    "Turning the monitors up as loud as they will handle the music is the best to hear the quality" not so. Not at all. Not even close.
    Another thing this missleads them to believe is that
    Speakers that are bad or worn out is the reason they break.
    The problem is they have no idea exactly WHAT it is that breaks speakers down...... the answer is.... distortion.

    And turning the volume up WAY too high is exactly the way to do that.


    Dude, use ur headphones.

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    Dude, use ur headphones.
    Then you need to assume that they have headphones that are good enough that the person mixing can actually hear any distortion that is taking place.

    The the persons ears are well tuned enough that they know what distortion sounds like

    That the mixers headphone socket is not cranked up in volume to the point of the headphones distorting

    And we go round and round again


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    Quote Originally Posted by deevey View Post
    Then you need to assume that they have headphones that are good enough that the person mixing can actually hear any distortion that is taking place.

    The the persons ears are well tuned enough that they know what distortion sounds like

    That the mixers headphone socket is not cranked up in volume to the point of the headphones distorting

    And we go round and round again

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    bros, do you even compress? lol jk. from my experience, mix down is best done on studio monitors as the final stage. can't tell you how many times i thought i "nailed it" on headphones (sennheiser hd's) only to realize the mixdown sucks in real life, this is especially true for selecting top loops.

    but i digress, as that is for production. for dj mixes, i render in ableton with a compression strip on the master. other than that general advice, i cant give specifics as im using super old ableton 7.
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    Keep your levels out of the red.

    You can always go into Audacity later (it's free ya know?) and amplify to the desired loudness level. But, gain staging is important such that all your songs are at approximately the same gain/volume level.
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    With your speakers off, find loudest song that you have and adjust the channel gain to where it's just under the red. Copy that song to channel 2 and adjust it's channel gain to the same level. Now adjust the recorder gain till it is just under the red. At this point, you should be able to get the loudest, cleanest signal to the recorder as long as you keep the channel gains out of the red.
    I use an external mixer, so I also adjust the master gain in Traktor to just under red, adjust the mixer booth output going back to the soundcard to just under red, and adjust my speaker levels with the master gain on the mixer.
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    When I record my mixes I usually record them at a low volume so I'm sure there's no clipping, then I normalize it.

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    i must be doing something completely wrong because im reading all these suggestions and i keep seeing these "work-arounds" all over the place

    i just dont get why djs today dont know how to keep a top level audio signal? something has to be going wrong here.

    i never normalize
    compress
    render
    mixdown
    or do ANYTHING after the mix is done.

    I record it live, and i watch my output level..... thats it.


    If im not sure about the mix, ill record about 2 minutes of audio to start. then ill play it back in Winamp and watch the Volume meters to make sure they are near peak at their edges
    then i just leave my levels there and start a full mix session.

    WHile im mixing, i watch me levels from time to time to make sure im still good.
    i even do this in the club.

    what is all this you guys are doing? where do you get this info from that tells you, this is the proper way to do it?
    Im not saying youre wrong, im just saying, somewhere, you were missled and now ur passing the same info onto other people

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