Separate effects unit vs DJM onboard effects

[electroshock]

Thinking of getting a send-return capable mixer. What would be the closest alternative for Pioneer DJM onboard effects? How's Korg Kaoss pad quad? Can I get the same results as with a DJM mixer fx? Any others except the obvious Pioneer RMX 500/1000? Mostly interested in echo and delay.

[Thijs]

If you looking for a typical pioneer sound, I would suggest to try a RMX unit? But if you want to stay close to the DJM onboard effects, why not just get a DJM mixer?

Or you can use guitar effect pedals. The Boss digital delay and reverb stompboxes are obvious choices, DJT has a video with a lot of Boss pedals demonstrated. Lots of techno DJ's use the DD-7 and RV-5, have used them in the past. Sounds great. Boss has a couple of other stereo effects pedals aswell. And offcourse there are literally a millions guitar effect pedal manufactures to choose from..

Or if you use a computer, you can build an ableton effects rack. That will probably sound more 'digital' compared to a guitar stompbox.

Hope this helps :-)

[SlvrDragon50]

RMX-1000 will be the closest to Pioneer FX, but if you're interested primarily in an echo and delay, I would recommend a Boss pedal because you can modify the parameters better than the RMX.

The RMX is really a unique FX, not really comparable to the onboard FX of the DJM.

[electroshock]

But if you want to stay close to the DJM onboard effects, why not just get a DJM mixer?

I want to go modular for the same price and I need only 2 channels. Basically I want the DJM fx section as a standalone unit.
No excessive use of effects, just basics.
Isn't the Korg the thing I'm looking for?
Pedals seem to be limiting to a couple effects, kinda different from what I imagine I need.

[SlvrDragon50]

So the benefit of the pedals is that you can use both the echo and delay simultaneously which is pretty awesome.

The Korg would certainly work, but I don't know how good it sounds. You will just have to try it and report back to us! The YT vids look pretty good. I do think a lot of the FX on the Korg you won't really use.

What mixer are you planning on getting? Like a Xone 62/92?

[electroshock]

What mixer are you planning on getting? Like a Xone 62/92?

Not many two channel mixers with send return. Ecler Nuo 2.0 or 3.0 comes to mind.

[SlvrDragon50]

Not many two channel mixers with send return. Ecler Nuo 2.0 or 3.0 comes to mind.

Yea, rather unfortunate since most people aren't using 4 channels. In that case, figure out what FX you really want. Ecler filters are pretty solid so you've got that covered.

A lot of the FX on the Korg Kaoss I would pretty much never use. Is there a reason why you don't want to get a digital mixer?

Check this out and see how Ean uses the guitar pedals.

[electroshock]

A lot of the FX on the Korg Kaoss I would pretty much never use. Is there a reason why you don't want to get a digital mixer?

Me neither, but it has echo, delay and filters which would be enough if can be used as on a djm.

Is there a reason why you don't want to get a digital mixer?

Which one do you suggest?

[SlvrDragon50]

Me neither, but it has echo, delay and filters which would be enough if can be used as on a djm.

Which one do you suggest?

Denon X1600 is my recommendation: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-DJ-DN-X1.../dp/B003B2H8GS Only $600 which is a steal in my opinion. The effects sound waaaay better than Pioneer's IMO. Plus you have parameter. The only thing that sucks is no channel filters.

[SlayForMoney]

Denon X1600 is my recommendation: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-DJ-DN-X1.../dp/B003B2H8GS Only $600 which is a steal in my opinion. The effects sound waaaay better than Pioneer's IMO. Plus you have parameter. The only thing that sucks is no channel filters.

Or X600 if he doesn't need 4 channels. Denon mixers are perfect match for RMX units because they have a basic set of on-board FX but a pretty good send-return loop (even the smaller X600).

Bonus points if you get a white skin for it, looks awesome