Really… Why do I keep seeing them on devices, when I see smooth, LED ring encoders on FAR cheaper stuff like behringer’s new CMD line?
Do people LIKE notched encoders? The only purpose I see for them is taking the place of a pair of up/down buttons and a “confirm” button.
For changing values, they’re just awful IMO.
also, I think push LED ring encoders need to take over for just about everything except EQ… those things are incredible. You can map ONE to as many different control layers as as you want, without the need for takeover when you switch layers. Plus you can map their push command to reset to default. AMAZING.
EDIT: to avoid any newbie confusion, by notched encoders, I mean endless knobs that click when you turn them, I don’t mean knobs with a center indent like most EQs etc.
agreed. That’s what I meant by: “The only purpose I see for them is taking the place of a pair of up/down buttons and a “confirm” button.”
If you know what you’re doing with your gear… you care about this stuff.
Yes you can work around it just fine, just like you can play a great set on a pair of shitty CDJs and a cheap mixer if you have to. But when you’re designing YOU OWN rig, you care about this stuff if you’re serious about DJing. If you try to map effects to a notched encoder, you have to either set it so that you can either hear the notches as you turn up the effects, thus ruining a filter sweep etc. or so that you have to crank the knob around fifty times to get the effect all the way up.
Ever used the gain knobs on the S4? Notice how much you have to turn those to just change the volume a noticeable amount? Imagine having to map an effect on to that where you need to go from zero to max…
Are you on the forums soley to complain about the S4 and boast about the Behringer modular controllers? Seems like it… lol.
Isn’t it common sense that you shouldnt map your notched encoder to a filter? Instead map it to loop size, browse functions, effects with set values, etc.
I think the gain adjust is fine. It keeps gain adjustments smooth and minor, as they should be. If you choose to map an effect onto them, you can make it as sensitive as you desire.
No, but it’s the gear that I have right now, so it comes up a lot… Just like other people use it, or whatever their set up is, in examples all the time.
Filter was the easiest example, i was talking about it being mapped to FX. They are on a lot of gear nowadays, intended for FX control.
[QUOTE]Ever used the gain knobs on the S4? Notice how much you have to turn those to just change the volume a noticeable amount? Imagine having to map an effect on to that where you need to go from zero to max…
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So remap it with sensitivity/acceleration control - problem solved ?
You’ve never tried to do that, I assume?
Why would we want to get used to acceleration, when smooth encoders can easily be turned at the exact speed as knobs, and arent much more expensive?
There are REASONS why developers use things like encoders with detents. Sometimes these reasons are technical (like when the knob is meant to scroll through an ordered list), and sometimes they’re more cultural (like English mixers using pots with detents so the pots can stop at measured values). In either case, it usually isn’t a trivial decision. There’s usually a good reason.
