Lol come on now, are you actually going to be worried about the slight hum the jog wheel produces while you’re playing live?
i played on 850s last week and they felt really nice.
might have been me drunk at 5AM, but still
Of the Pioneer offerings, the CDJ850 is the one that comes closest to being a “reasonable” product. If it was £499, I’d say it was a good product, but at £759 it’s just still too expensive.
£400 to £500 seems to be the going rate for used 850s.
Same here:850 is around 800 Euros.600 would be okay!
It just has the same feeling you’d expect from a toddler’s toy. The jog wheel feels like shit compared to jog wheels on controllers.
CDJ1000 MK3 had a great jog, but the lack of USB is a killer for me.
I have the 900s and when I unpacked them I was a bit shocked to say the least. They actually feel p!ss poor construction wise for the money, I was kind of expecting them to be made from a better grade of plastic. That said they work a treat and you cannot hear the jogwheels when the music is turned up to a level that makes your ears bleed. So whilst initially disappointed with them out of the box I soon got over this and fully appreciate them for what they are.
Still mystified as to why they cannot be made out of metal for the money.
edit I assumed the noise from the jogs was actually some form of ball bearing race, is this not the case?
Don’t really know. I just find it absurd that you’re paying so much money for such cheap plastic. It’s not even a nice heavyweight ABS plastic. It seriously feels like a toy.
I would love a Denon SC2900 with the Pioneer play/cue buttons..
Not that I’ve ever played on a Pioneer deck, but I was under the impression that the SC2900’s DID have the same style buttons?? Hard plastic, minimal travel, satisfying click? Not the rubber type buttons.
Whoops, yea. Got it confused with the SC2000.
Personally the 1000s feel like toys to me… all rattly and shit because of the ball bearings :-\
It was just as rattly as the 850, but at least it felt nice and heavy vs the 850. I dunno. I just don’t get why these jogs feel so bad compared to controllers. Every single jog I’ve used (S2/S4, MC3000, Contour) has been way better than what the CDJ jog felt like.
It’s the ball bearings mate. Controllers are all - as far as I’m aware - spindle-mounted in the centre with bushings. Gives a smoother feel, but it’s difficult making them larger which is why most controllers have small jogs. If I remember rightly, the RMPs use a spindle mounted jog which is quite nice.
I can’t find any evidence of ball bearings, but these rollers come up on the spare parts sites so they must be used in the jogs.
Like the 1000s, the 2000s have tension adjust so there isn’t a problem with weight/resistance. They do make a bit of noise if you’re moving them fast but they’re smooth and quiet when beatmatching.
I think ball bearings would be pretty quiet or at least very smooth, not rattly.
Platter roller makes sense though.
I’ll still take the CDJ over any controller and it’s little toy feeling, there’s a reason they are standard and that reason is that they are better.
^Don’t even try to start that argument, whether or not CDJs are better is down to personal preference. CDJs are standard because a lot of people are used to them and more importantly, they are universal. If clubs had controllers, they’d need to have at least five different models and that’s obviously impractical.
I have to at least try
I don’t really care that the 850s are plastic…they’re a decent pair of decks. It’s basically all you need if you are an A->B style of DJ.