I came on the Behringer DJX900USB and the reloop rmx 40 DSP Blackfire 4 channel mixer.
the Behringer has a frequency response of 10-40.000 Hz, the reloop 20-20.000 Hz. Yeah I know, your reaction will be like: you dont hear 10-20 hz and above 20.000 Hz. Yeah i know, but I think the bass is richer and you can feel the bass then.
I just need someone who can look at the specs and can say what’s the best.
That will be greatfull
I disagree. The headphone jack is the only problem layout wise. Nothing wrong with the build either. The only issue I’ve had was the fader cap coming off on the x-fader - and that was easily fixed with the old piece of folded paper trick…
It’s the least intuitive layout I’ve ever come across. (Still, at least the knobs are laid out better than a Xone:62)
If you get a rock solid mixer you’ll notice the difference. It doesn’t feel very nice to use and I was constantly scared that I was going to break something.
You should be able to step up to a good mixer, glance at it, and understand pretty much what everything does. Or at least all the basic functions and how to select, modulate and trigger effects.
Well… through normal use.
Not saying it’s a bad mixer, anything but, just saying there’s a reason why you can get all those features at such a low price.
There certainly is. Owning your own factory is a good start.
But let me ask you something. Do you know what things cost inside a mixer? Do you know how to spot quality? I’m not being antagonistic here, just making a point. Would you know a paper PCB from epoxy? Would you actually know a good fader from a bad one (and be able to explain the difference)?
Here’s an independent review of the DDM4000 that goes into a LOT of detail regarding what is inside the mixer…
Again, not saying it’s bad. It’s pretty incredible what you get for the price and I’m a huge fan of behringer gear (and the fact they have their own factory city thing going on), I’m sure you guys made a lot of good decisions while making it. But you would be a fool if you said there is nothing wrong with it. Nothing is perfect, certainly not the DDM4000.
The layout is confusing, LEDs are blinding, the pots, encoders and faders all feel cheap, the vu meters are not that clear and all the buttons are rather unpleasant to press. Plenty of things that could be improved upon in future.
I very seriously think that is one of the problems with the DB4.
I also think you would have to be a genius to come up with a method to control all those crazy effects that your average idiot like me could find intuitive.
I agree no product is perfect, but you’re making subjective statements that aren’t fact. The layout isn’t confusing to everyone, as shown by a previous poster to this thread. The LED (the one LED) that was “blinding” was changed years ago. I’m not sure I put any faith on your personal assessment of what makes a “cheap” fader or pot. The VU meters are labeled. And buttons being “unpleasant to press” is another personal variable.
If you have measurable problems, that’s one thing. But you’re giving us your opinion here, and you’re not even backing it up.
As you said, those things are subjective statements, not fact, I have no way of ever possibly backing them up. All I can say is that those are my opinions when it comes to this mixer and that I believe that it’s a fairly common opinion judging by conversations I’ve had with others I have spoken to. “Personal variables” is what you are working with when trying to sell a product.
Good to hear about LED change- I guess the one my friend bought fairly recently had been sitting in a warehouse somewhere for some time as his still have them
btw, I was reading about the DJX900 and I couldn’t find any information as to what effects it has, you wouldn’t happen to know what they are, would you?
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A layout is only as confused as the person who is not used to it.
IMHO though, while the Pots are certainly not “high quality” .. they don’t suck either for normal home or an individuals live usage.
The amount of abuse that they can take by multiple DJ’s in a real-world professional (club) setting is IMHO going to be on the low side. Plastic shafted and not bolted to the front panel - they are cheap, cheap to buy, cheap to replace, half the cost (or less) of decent metal shafted bolt on’s (Akai APC), but for the target market which is individuals/mobile/live sets and not as pro-installation mixers they will work fine for many years if taken care of - I do like the feeling of “I won’t break this” mind you every time I swing a pot wildly under the influence.
For the price the gear is almost disposable anyhow and one could not complain whatsoever - if you wanted to spend $40 or $50 upgrading the pots there’s nothing stopping you apart from a credit card and soldering skills.
@nem0nic: I don’t suppose we’ll see an update to the DDM4k anytime soon, which addresses some teensy issues …
The headphone Jack (I don’t know one person who doesn’t complain about its location)
It’s the same effects processor as the DJX750. See page 7 of the manual.
Hard to say. Personally I would love to revisit the DDM4K and change it up a bit, but given the massive move to controllers it might not be worth the development costs. It’s definitely a topic of discussion in the office, though.
That’s good to know! I can’t think of anything on an update that would need developing beyond what has already been done. For me, the perfect mixer is the DDM4000, with a built in 8in-8out audio interface (I don’t want much…), an FX section on every channel, and…
POST FADER FX!!!
Honestly though - I look forward to future Behringer gear.
