buying a launchpad.. thoughts on live vs launchpad edition
hi guys, im taking a step into ableton for the first time, and looked into using the launchpad.. it ships with its own launchpad edition software.. does this allow use of the drum racks like the ones mad zach release? or do i need to update to full live 8.. i also use sertao and have since v1.1 and i love it can any one point me in the direction of some help using the bridge… thanks
Launchpad edition is just like Live Intro/Lite, IIRC.. Lite comes with impulse and you can load up to 8 samples into Impulse to jam out with. So yes you can play with the MadZach releases you just have to use multiple instances of Impulse to achieve more the 8 sample slots.
And from what I remember the Bridge only works with Full version of Ableton, not the lite/intro/launchpad/akai versions.
Ahh, don’t be such a ***.. Coming from someone who has paid for a legit version of Suite, Ableton is everything and more, well worth the investment. Just buy Live 8 and leave Suite alone if you plan on using a lot of plugins.. Support the company whos products you use, especially Ableton. At this rate we will never see a Live 9 'cause everyone will just pirate Live 8… I feel a dongle coming on in the near future…
Could live with that.
I honestly wouldn’t either.. But he’s not hurting me either, just kind of irritating if you ask me.
sorry if it irritates you but sumtimes i cant in my head justify paying for software after shelling out for hard ware… i just scooped a open box apc20 but the cost to upgrade to live from the apc version pissed me off
Yeah. And I always like to have something physical either. At least a nice product package or an installer DVD. It’s always hard to justify paying 100s of bucks for something more or less virtual.
Selling bundles of hardware and software as a company (like e.g. NI Maschine) is a good way I guess.
THE APC20 cost me £175.00+VAT and to go from the apc version to the live 8 was too much for me… i just cant stand the thought of buying a fully functioning midi controller thats built to work with software, and then being bent over to to get the full version… it just seems a bit like a big middle finger to the buyer
To each their own.. Like I said I see Live 9 have some sort of dongle to keep the pirating down, and im 100% for that. If you can’t pay it stick with reaper or the 10 other cheap DAW’s… If you want a live performance tool/DAW then you should be willing to shell out some cash.
I have Live 8 Lite and it’s like being a kid in a lolly shop with his mouth sewn shut.
I can set up a single impulse track to work with an MPD 26 to get 8 samples mapped to 8 of the pads, but when I drop in a second impulse track so I can map samples to the remaining pads, the first impulse stops working and I’m left with nothing. The presets on the MPD and the I/O settings on the first impulse device are still exactly as they were, and the midi indicator lights still flash when I press the pads but no sound. The tracks are still active, the samples still play when I click them with the mouse, nothing else is changed but the extra impulse.
EDIT
So THAT’S what track arm is for…
Drum Racks can’t be edited with Intro so I can’t use them for triggering samples either. The closest I can get is dropping the samples into clip slots which leaves me without pressure sensitivity or looping functions
It’s a bit of a let down, all I want for now is to be able to trigger more than 8 samples with a bit of sensitivity for ghost notes and maybe a couple clip slots. I’d be great if I could use all 4 banks for the pads… EDIT Intro version can do 8 impulse tracks for 4 banks of 16 pads. noob mistake…
Intro has a fair few limitations but there’s still plenty there.
So i was considering purchasing the same launchpad with the Live Lite edition and I was wondering can you upgrade up to Live 8 edition from the launchpad edition? If so what is cost on that if anyone knows?
This is essentially the only thing holding me back from getting a launchpad.
Thanks
Yes you can upgrade. Its still pricey, but you save about 100 bucks if memory serves me correctly vs. the full retail price.
Look into the educational discount if you qualify for it, their definition of student if fairly liberal, though they do make you prove it.
Sweet! and does anyone know if their is another thread about routing Ableton into Traktor or vice versa? im not sure which way woud be best?
Didn’t dubspot.com have some sweet tutorial videos on that topic?
I have owned Ableton for a while and then bought the Kontrol x1 with traktor and it was a nightmare trying to get them to play nicely. I have been more impressed with Imaglines Deckadance software showing as a vst in ableton than traktor. I took back my traktor Kontrol x1.
Ableton has been known to offer upgrades at 33% off so the jump from Live lite to Live Full to Live Suite is not that far out of reach when they offer it.
I have the launchpad and love it. Its a fantastic tool for ableton. I highly recommend it. I cant comment on how cool it is with Launchpad edition.
I have a Launchpad, but QUICKLY became annoyed with the Launchpad Edition of Ableton. It didn’t take long to upgrade to the full version. Actually, when I decided to upgrade, they were having a deal where you could upgrade to the Live Suite for like $99 more (normally its like $250 more). Suite has more stuff than I need (that’s a whole other discussion), but overall I am glad I upgraded. The Launchpad is a fantastic controller. It’s integration with able ton is great. I considered both and APC20 or an APC 40, but opted for the Launchpad and I couldn’t be happier. I augmented it with a Korg nanoKontrol2 for channel volumes and a Behringer BCR2000 for more knobs (endless encoders with led rings) than I can shake a stick at.
i have live8le that came with my launchpad and also a full version of live5. just checked in my ableton account and it’s 269eur to upgrade from my live8le or 149eur to upgrade from my live5. i haven’t used live8le much, or even have it installed atm, but given how cheap the launchpad is i think it’s pretty cool software given that it’s basically free. i’ve been holding off to see if bitwig pans out before deciding which way to go.
i route audio from mixxx into live5 atm and it’s pretty simple to setup - same goes for traktor that i was doing before. you could also route from ableton into a traktor live input deck that i did as an experiment. for midi sync it seems best to sync traktor with ableton rather than the other way round but either is simple to setup - at least on a mac - maybe not worth it on a pc, don’t think the sync will be as stable. i’m using soundflower for routing audio on my mac but jack should do the same job on a pc.
These are 2 completely separate companies ?
The only thing you actually bought was a mid range controller (only) designed to work with a specific software (or others) and essentially getting you got the lite version of Ableton as a freebie which happens to include a hefty discount for the full version should you need it, Live lite is plenty enough for alot of musicians.
I’d hardly call it being bent over or the middle finger.
By your reckoning you should get a free Car when you buy a bodykit that included a paint job as part of the package.
Just as well you didn’t buy a VCI400 or Numark 4Trak
I think the Launchpad Edition of Live would be less of a middle finger in your face if trying to use 70% of the sound presets didn’t result in a “Sorry no workie for cheap assholes”-dialog box. Why even include it if it’s not gonna work?
I’ve been producing with FL Studio since it was called Fruity Loops 1.75, but tried out Ableton (again) when I got my L-pad, I’m not extremely impressed seeing as the Launchpad works BETTER natively in FLStudio (10.6 beta with performance mode). No need for silly midi return maps and stuff. Everything is mapped out like a champ with transports, a much more detailed mapping for mixer channels etc. I’m still gonna learn Live inside-out though, seeing as FL 10.6 is still beta and not really stable enough to do a gig on yet (some memory leaks etc).
Would like to know more about nanoKontrol + Launchpad combo
I’m also interested in the Launchpad + nanoKontrol2 combo… I don’t like the step-mixer system on the Launchpad.
My only concern is whether the assignment of the nanoKontrol faders and buttons would follow the clips that are currently mapped to the Launchpad if the launchpad window is scrolled around?
Anyone got this combo and can comment?