Don’t BS us in here…we’re all relatively in the same business. To say that you just want it to test it out until you make money from it is a cop out, because you can use demo versions.
I was playing with a cracked version of Virtual DJ about a year ago. I’m not sure if my dissatisfaction was as much to do with it being a crack, as to the design of the software itself.
I trained with the Traktor demo (full featured demo was a huge selling point) until I couldn’t handle having my mixes cut to a half hour anymore.
Is anyone really using Traktor Scratch, or Serato as a crack? Can you really do anything if don’t have the hardware to convert your timecoded vinyl?
I use a cracked copy of ableton 7 (not a DVS) because I cant afford it, and 7LE isnt out yet.
As for DVS, I was thinking of buying ms pinky, but might get a demo of another DVS until I do so. I mostly want to use ammobox tho, so need to get a copy of reaktor 2. All this software is going to pwn my bank account. :[
With a view to preserving DJTT website integrity and prevent any legal issues, It would be a wise move for the mods to bring in a rule to ban the discussion of pirate software/serial numbers/cracks and posting links to such on the forum. Especially as DJTT would probably like to maintain a healthy relationship with manufacturers. Just a thought.
Why would it be wise for the mods to ban a discussion on what people are using?
There is no talk of cracks, serial #'s, etc…
And how can a discussion between users on a public forum about what they use cause unhealthy relationships with manufacturers?
You could say that with all the talk of Traktor here, Serato could get mad…or since we discuss using Novation controllers, Vestax could get mad. What???
Talking about and debating the value of cracks and demo periods is healthy and may encourage the software folks to be more generous with their demos. I dont have any problem with those kinds of discussions.
However, if people should ever start actually posting instructions or serials then that would certainly not be a good thing for our forum.
Almost all the manufactures love this site as it provides a much needed place to learn about their products so I am not too concerned about our relations with them but we dont want to turn this into a hacker zone
I wish I could save in the reaktor demo :[ might need to hack it so I can actually learn to use it (til i can afford to get it), as I totally cbf if I have to setup ammobox every 30 mins :[ Come on NI be kind to us poor student-types.
If you like it , buy it-
It helps pay for future updates you will undoubtedly want
Software writers have mortgages too
If you hate it… Delete it
Followed by a congratulations to yourself for not blowing your hard earned money on something you will never use.
Demo’s sometimes are enough to decide if you like a program enough to buy it but sometimes they are overly limited - to the point you would uninstall a perfectly good program and not even think about purchasing the full edition.
Then theres the people who just plain don’t have enough money to buy the software.. Especially with music software this limits peoples electronic creative avenues to a handful of sub-grade freeware software. These people i don’t mind stealing software, it does not hurt anyone - however if you have money (like most people in a western society) and your not paying for software you use reguarly then you should take a look at your morals. Even hackers like Team Air have enough morals to throw in a “Try before you buy” message.
I find it akin to white label vinyl that even the music industry recognises as a necessary evil. If you don’t know what i am on about read this from wikipedia -
"Many white labels contain unsolicited remixes and/or tracks that are not yet licensed or released (also called “bootlegs”). White labels can be referred to as “promos” (short for “promotional copies”) that many top-name DJs receive and play weeks or sometimes months before a song gets general release to the public. As artists using samples pay very high fees for the privilege of such, they must be able to gauge the market potential before handing over the money.
The industry itself seems to be aware of this necessity and white labels are commonly accepted as a necessary evil within the industry, which has only ever prosecuted an extremely small number of those artists using white labeled pressings of uncleared samples and compositions."
Just as producing endless white labels for a really dope track is wrong, so is endlessly using stolen dope software.
I use allot of cracked software myself. Mainly to really use it, learn the software and become comfortable with the interface. Truly get used to what its all about. I then make a choice if it is a piece I feel I cannot live without and/or I begin to use that software in areas where money does become involved. I buy it!
or else like Bento says, If I do not like it then it hits the trash.
As well for the DVS system I was an unlucky recipients of a FS2.0 unit right at the point of divorce between the collaborating companies. Not having any software to use with it, I did use a cracked copy of Tracktor2.0. Later on moving to deckadance and DjDecks.
All of which now I do not have since I have sold my turntable and moved on to a VCI-100 with full legal version of Tracktor3.0
I do use the ScratchAMP as my soundcard.
The “Try before you buy” aspect of piracy is great for evaluation and education. This is such an easy concept to abuse, and you really have to just stick to morals and realize that someone has put work into what you are using and ultimately should be compensated.
For sure there is allot of abuse that is placed into this practice. Thats why I do understand and agree on some level of the zero tolerance for piracy.
I think for those who do use this practice it really come right down to morals. Use the practice for the intended purpose really, get rid of software you do not use, buy the stuff you do use.
There is probably allot of people who do.
I know I am one, I do have every intention (and have bought the major apps) to purchase all my “tests I like”. Yet at times it does come down to the financial situation at the time.
Although sometimes during these times I am unable to purchase, I find the app that I thought I needed to buy falls to the wayside and really is not that useful as I originally thought and really just ends up in the trash.
The OEM licensing system has sold me Laptop with Vista. Therefore I grant myself usage/degradation to XP (when I need to get things done).
The paypal does not support my country and there was no understanding for digital DJ-ing in shops until recently. So, my Traktor is cracked(v2 & v3) since I could not buy it. Now that I can buy it from a store, they’ve done the Pro-mistake.
Why not regret? I don’t make money with it. It is not a tool for me, in this market, in this town. When it becomes so, I will gladly pay for it.
Cracked Bome’s I don’t use out of respect (Pro ver. is overpriced for my convinience). But I use a kickass DIY MIDI controller that I can program into anything I think of.
The rest of the software on my computer is mostly freeware and every day I find some utility that replaces the ones that are supposed to be payed for.
i use a cracked version of traktor 3.4 and traktor pro 1.1.
this is due my LACK of money. i hardly gathered 150€ together to buy a fucked up worn out numark total control @ ebay.
but since i’m so talented, i can soon start to play in some clubs, earn money and buy traktor pro.
or better save up the money to buy two pioneers mks 1000 and some gootlike mixer.