Completely agree, man. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I guess xone is out of this battle , that was easy 
ill stick to my original answer as the 700… if its just for home and smaller bar gigs its more than enough and you will haveno problem playing on a 900 or 2000 nexsus at the big clubs!
Don’t be so hasty. I’ve got a DJM 900 and an RMX-1000 and I’ve been thinking about trading in the 900 for a xone 92 - it’s more about which mixer is right for you than which mixer is “right”.
I’ve been using the djm 800 I’m the club , and I do like to use the mixer to its fullest. I like the effect and filters that it has , but I have to admit they do sound cheesy , I can’t speak for the xone , but I from what I read , it has best sound output and and filters beyond control
My issue is that the 900 is largely redundant with the RMX. If I could use the 900 effects on top of the RMX while still using send/return routing instead of routing the master through the RMX, I might be able to utilize both well; but as it stands, I mainly use the filters and EQs on the 900 - which the 92 would do better. I like the effects - they’re not as good as most DAW effects, but they work well for DJ purposes - but the ones on-board on the 900 are a bit too inflexible for my tastes.
I agree with you . I’m sure in some aspects or genre specific , it makes more sense to use filters and wider range of Eq’s
after reading this thread it is quite disappointing that today’s mixers are so weak. Pioneer sucks. A&H sucks. So glad I switched to software.
When there is no competition, Pioneer just continues to build overpriced shit.
It’s really sad. You guys should stop buying this crap thinking that this overpriced garbage makes you a pro DJ.
First, don’t be a condescending prick like that. There’s no need for it. I’m not in the mood for another one of these arguments though so I’ll just write it off as you’re in a bad mood or something so it’s whatever.
Second, you’re either trolling or you seem to misunderstand.
I want to possibly go to the 92 to upgrade/sidegrade. I went to the 900 originally because the sound quality was quite lacking while internally mixing with my S4 (and APC 40 before that, VCI-100 before that… I didn’t just go out and buy a DJM to be “pro,” I mixed internally for years first). Denon and A&H are actually pretty decent competitors to Pio - they’re not industry standard, but they make solid mixers; that’s why I brought up possibly swapping to an A&H…? I don’t think anyone in here said the mixers suck - they pointed out things that they didn’t care for in the mixers. There is no such thing as a perfect mixer (or car, or TV, or any other consumer good for that matter); everything is going to have some aspect or another that some people like and some people don’t. I actually quite like the 900, I just found that it’s not quite as useful as it was before since I have an RMX now (which I didn’t when I bought the 900).
“sound quality was quite lacking”
I’m so sick of this crap. I’ve never had a problem with software sound quality. On Serato, Traktor, VDJ, Djay, etc.
Maybe you need to check your DJing/programming/track selection skills.
Why is the DDJ-SX so popular? … Cause it feels so “PIONEER”
I’m sick of this crap.
Then don’t post in these threads.
I agree with Keeb, I had a Xone 42 and with an Audio 8 it sounded much better than any internal mixing controller I’ve had (and I’ve had alot). I like my DJM-800, if I could make it better it would be to put an innofader in it. I’ve really considered a Rane 62, but most places I play have a DJM 800 or 900 so I’m used to the workflow (and enjoy it) of the DJM.
The DJM800 is probably THE mixer I see at the clubs we play at most…and we play at some of the top venues in Orange County and Los Angeles.
I personally think A&H sound better than the Pioneers and really got a chance to check them out at NAMM2013. But for pure ergonomics, nothing feels better than the Pioneers. The filter is right where I need it and the effects when used sparingly do work in a club…and we sometimes play on amazing Funktion Ones.
I just can’t stand the effects location and the 4-band EQ as our style of music (electro house and house) sometimes just need 1 less knob to do a quick cut…but that’s just all preferences though.
/soundquality is something highly subjective unless theres a fault somewhere causing massive distortion/
some people prefer the warm analogue sound of the a&h analogue mixers (92,62,4d) than the pioneers clean digital sound.
i do prefer ah over pio but for sure theres many people who is of the opposite opinion and thats just fine.
i dont believe any of the mixers are crap but they might not just be what you are looking for.
The way I see it is pioneer and digital mixers tend to be better for music mixed using quick transitions or quick bass swaps and for people that want some on board effects.
Allen and Heath mixers really shine with long blends - the eq’s are really responsive and the four eq on the 92 is great for isolating different parts of a tracks and the filters are on a whole other level compared to a DJM.. Even the filter on a Xone 22 is better. Also Vinyl sounds amazing going through an analogue mixer like a xone and out to a good rig.
Really they both have there strengths. The pioneer mixers are really intuitive though like others have said and the the 850/900 are nice with inbuilt sound cards.
I don’t want this to turn into a Pioneer vs A&H war, but I recently went and tried a Xone 92 and pretty much just hated it.
Yes, the filters and nice.
No, I don’t think it sounded noticeably better.
The EQ knobs and fucking stubby, what the fuck. You can’t get your fingers around them. It’s ridiculous.
Filter assigning is a pain in the arse, I just wanted to easily assign the filter to a channel (which is simple on DJM’s) and use it. Rather than having to fanny about. Fair enough if you’re mixing techno/house and you want to use the L/P H/P or B/P filters over the course of a mix, but if you’re not, it’s extra hassle for no real gain.
Alright, I’m done.