External mixer with filters on every deck?
Looking for a 4 deck external mixer and I really want filters on every channel, sence I use them quite a bit when “lifting” highs and cutting lows over tracks when mixing. How come more mixers dont have filters on every channel??? 
what’s your budget mate?
If there is no mixer within price range, why not just use the ordinary EQ’s?
Cost mate, thats why not many mixers have it on every channel. The Pioneer DJM 800 does.
Why not use 4 internal filters assigned to a midi controller for each deck? Pick up a nanokontrol or something purely for 4 filters, you’ll even have some knobs left for other FX
hummm. I have an Akai LPD8 and I can probally use it as a preset for filters on all decks but I dont like switching between presets that much, I like the way its set up now…im actually looking for something on the cheaper range. I own a VCI 100 SE/midifighter as well. I can’t decide on a good 4 channel mixer to suite my needs. I was looking at the DDM 4000, but seems like there is too many functions I dont need and I probally wouldnt be happy with the sound card and have to buy a audio 8 dj. I don’t know… I was in this situation for months…Maybe im asking for two much in a small price range but im sure it can be done…
willing to spend say 500 or less
With a little midi knowledge you could remap some lesser used knobs on any midi capable mixer (such as the ddm 4000) to use as filters. I wouldn’t base my mixer choice on 4 knobs (or lack thereof) tho, personally.
here is a read on the DDM4K: inside BEHRINGER DDM4000, 32bit Digi Mixer(update) - Speakerplans.com Forums - Page 1
again from the other thread it is potentally misleading to use the term soundcard when referring to the DDM4k or any traditional mixer. a mixer like the korg zero 8 is a mixer with a soundcard. A mixer like the DDM4k has no soundcard.
if you read the thread about you’ll see that the ddm4k does pretty well audibly compared to other mixers of the same price range.
it also draws conclusions based on testing on how hard you should drive the inputs and outputs for the best sound and that the mixer will sound bad if you overdrive either, which makes sense causes its digital.
What do you mean you don’t like switching between presets? If that’s the case get 4 knobs assigned with 4 filters set up exactly how you want them, why stop at the presets? I have 4 knobs set up for FX and they never change, I literally have them labelled “filter”, “beat masher”, “flanger” etc on the midi controller itself as I know Im never going to change them. That’s just how I work, I don’t need shit loads of FX. But it seems like for the sake of buying a new mixer, getting used to having 4 individual filters on that mixer, then turning up at a club and not having any FX at all let alone 4 separate ones due to them having a different mixer, then being fucked for FX, you might as well program your LPD8 to have 4 filters you love and can take everywhere you go and you know how to use inside out.
Are you really planning on carrying your mixer with you to every gig and going to all the trouble of swapping it over for the sake of having 4 separate filters when all you gotta do is get your LPD8 on the go?!
that’s why is hard for me to choose DDM4K…
It’s not a club stardard and it’s not portable either…
If you are planning to do external mixing what are you mixing or what you are planing to mix with your VCI-100 SE EQ Knobs?
You could use them as your filters and leave your standard external EQ on the mixer
No basically I plan on using the club mixer if its fit to use. I just want to get a better flow with 4 deck mixing, soooo practising at home on a 4 deck mixer would be ideal. I also do private parties from time to time in halls and stuff. So basically I want to get used to mixing 4 decks so I can really work it on the mixer at the club or other types of events.
Im just frustrated I like having my EQ’s and filters all in front of me as they should be, I dont want a setup with bits and pieces of this here and that there type thing.
something like a xone 42 would be nice if I wasnt so poor haha
Ha ha ha ha, what you gonna say when you turn up to a club and you don’t like the mixer? “Sorry mate, don’t like that mixer, I’m not playing”. You won’t ever get booked again!
Do what Hoff said, use the external mixer for the EQ’s and assign 4 filters to your VCI 100. Or, do what I’m about to do. build a small midi box consisting of just 4 knobs in a row then attach that to the top of your VCI 100 so that it is effectively one unit. Job done.
Or what you could do is go out and spend 500+ bucks on a mixer, get used to it, then get to a club with a mixer that has no FX so everyone can really appreciate the practice you put in to relying on those filters at home.
Either way you seem like your mind is made up, just get the mixer.
What I meant by “if its fit to use” was that if it really isn’t fit to use I would mix internally with my audiofire2 and settle for 2 decks.
But ya I need to just get a mixer…
Oh I get ya! Fair do’s
Cheers for that link. I’ve had this mixer for a year and always wondered about this kind of stuff (not enough to warrant googling for it).
Back to the topic :
You could spare more $$, get the djm800 and be screwed when you get somewhere that doesn’t have one. I’m with everyone else who suggested “just mix external on any decent 4 channel mixer, and control the internal filters with a little midi controller which you keep close to your frequently used controls”.
The Xone:42 looks really yummy but only has one filter.