get the s4 because sync in itch is a worthless, broken, unreliable piece of shit.
with the featureset the twitch is shooting for, make damn sure they have completely re-written their sync code before you feel like novation and serato came into your house, banged your mother, kicked you in the balls… twice…
and then took 500 dollars out of your wallet.
short answer, yes, it changes the CC.
long answer, along with all the other answers to the questions I emailed them:
[quote]1. I’m going to be mostly using it with Traktor Pro 2 (though I’ll certainly be giving ITCH 2.0 a try), and I’ll be making my own custom mapping. Is the volume section in the top right hand corner hard wired to the volumes or is that midi mappable as well?
The ‘Master’ section controls (Headphone, Mix, Booth and Master) are all hardwired and are the only rotaries which do not send midi on the unit.
Yes this is correct, each section - Hot Cues, Slicer, Auto Loop and Loop Roll send out subtly different CC messages. You should not have to make any modifiers.
I’m sure these can possibly be affected via velocity change info, however this is currently not supported (or tested here so I wouldn’t want to give you a definitive answer).
There will be an implementation guide with the Twitch controller so that you can check these LED / Midi notes to make your own mappings.
Currently it maps with the Traktor overlay only, however I will submit this as a feature request as I can see how it would be helpful.
Yes these work in a different way to Itch, however there is LED feedback. In Traktor your finger contact position is backlit, whereas in Itch, the LEDs pulse from left to right.
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the s4 can do a lot more than the twitch, but it is also more expensive
if you are looking into getting the twitch as your main setup then maybe you should consider the S4 instead because it does a lot more plus you can add in turntables later on and get the S4 scratch upgrade to use timecode vinyls along with the S4
just my two cents 
i got an s4 and personally i was gonna get a novation twitch as well but now i think im just gonna use the money to buy a vinyl deck and the s4 scratch upgrade coz i really miss the old vinyl feel
I’m not sure I’d say the S4 can do a LOT more than the twitch, they’re just different approaches. They’ll each excel at different things.
Twitch attracts me for creative mapping possibilities.
The S4, as is now, is somewhat limited in it’s mapping. Yeah, it’s OK for a it’s workflow, but I’m missing the “personal” touch to it. Many have said it - it’s like the S4 doesn’t have a soul, when twitch might have a greater potential for becoming a soulful friend …
NI disclosed that there will be S4 mappability enhancements in an upcoming software release, but when would that be, IDK. When the S4 gets the abilities for NHL mapping overrides, i’ll be happier for sure.
Twitch seems great, IMO, but i’'ll not replace my S4 with it. I see amazing potential in TWITCH, and if I didn’t have the S4 already, I’d probably be more attracted to get twitch instead.
A good advice to the OP would probably be to get a second hand S4 now, and wait for a couple of months to see how the TWITCH’s acceptance will be in the community. You could then decide what’s best to keep in the long run. If you decide to sell the second hand S4, you are likely not to loose much money … and you’ll have a great tool for the summer party season … NOW, instead of waiting or wondering
i was saying the S4 can do a lot more than twitch in terms like timecode capabilities, 4 individual channel strips with EQ and Filter on each channel independently, the sample decks, the live recorder etc, but the S4 almost costs TWICE as much as the Twitch, so there’s really no comparison between the two
I’d say the twitch would be a nice mini-setup, im actually looking forward to have a go at one to see how they would feel without a jogwheel and having a knob as a pitch slider, it’d be interesting
Hey ZILCH, based on your signature, you have both TSP & S4. Haven’t you got the TSP2 upgrade for free?
You said that you’d like to get the scratch upgrade for the S4, that’s why i’m asking … But you should already have it, i guess …
Oh when I bought the s4 I sold my tsp (which was a ts duo set upgraded to tsp) as I wanted to upgrade to the audio10
Bad move, should’ve kept it, I would have gotten the scratch upgrade for free
When I found out that the audio10 always have to be connected to the power adapter I changed by mind and by then it was too late, now my only option is to buy the s4 scratch upgrade and buy a separate audio6 Dj which would cost me extra
Silly me I know
I’ve been debating this same topic myself, except bw Twitch and the dn-mc6000. However, after a while of figuring out my dj style and also using the sc2000, I’ve realized that I don’t use the jog wheels that much. I’m more of a cue point dj. That said, I think DDM4000 + Twitch could be a crazy setup, no? Especially if I feel that I don’t need jog wheels for my workflow.
Any thoughts on using Twitch with an external mixer (like ddm4000) ? Plus the Twitch integrates TriggerFinger functions so I could potentially sell my TF and my sc2000..
(sorry, don’t mean to get this thread off topic…)
I agree with this.
This is true too, but my question to everyone is honestly how much cue point juggling and beat matching do you do? If you do it a lot then it’s worth picking up the Twitch. If you just love the idea of it more so then actually utilizing it to its full potential then get the S4. I myself fall in the second group.
However if you can use timecode via the Twitch then whenever I end up picking up 1200’s i’ll buy a Twitch to use as it’s mixer.
I basically think that having a big grid of pads on there instead of a pair of jogwheels is going to be more useful to me. I do like the S4 and I’ve tried one, but it’s very big and doesn’t really suit me.
but that’s just me.
I still don’t understand jog wheels on controllers…
had my hands on the twitch yesterday, and was pretty amazed by the performance in itch. slicer is different as in traktor, and i am not too sure if you can map this equally in traktor.
pads could be bigger… (only thing bugging me)
What did you think of the sound quality? I’ve noticed that in the specs of the twitch it has a slightly lower quality sound card to the S4. Do you think that sound quality wise it would hold up in a club/party?
I’m selling my S4, and I’m almost sold on getting the Twitch. Its only the difference in the sound card thats holding me back.
after reading everything and watching endless videos I’m gonna gona for the S4, I’d forgot about the scratch option which might come in handy for parties when I’m not in the club and my friend hooks up his turntables for a bit more variety, plus I play alot of varied styles of music and just think the work flow would suit me better on the S4,
been a good thread to read though, cheers chaps!
Hey guys I’ve been reading up on the sound quality, and there’s just one thing I’m keen to know.
The S4 has a 24bit/96Khz sound card, and the Twitch has a 24bit/48Khz sound card. Will there be a noticeable difference in the sound quality from the Twitch having the lower sample rate?
If not then I think you could say the Twitch has the same quality sound card as the S4 or A2? 
Well CDs are written at 44,100khz and that’s what most of us use as our Traktor output sample rate. So having a 96khz sound card is pretty pointless for DJing imo.
And is that difference noticeable? Unlikely, on any system or to any audience you’re likely to play to.
Yeah thats true FEP, I never realized that. The only reason why I asked is I noticed that the S4 has a 24bit/96Khz sound card, and they market theirs as the best, but after what you’ve reminded me about I don’y think there would be a noticeable difference. Cheers.
Yeah pretty sure no one would be able to tell a difference.
the specs of an audio unit say practically nothing about the sonic capabilities. The best DAC i own has a cheap Texas Instruments/Burr Brown chip, which is capable of only 16bit 44100 but can still outperform the S4 and many others in terms of dynamics and detail of the sound (the S4 is still louder, though).
If Novation, as claimed, did the job right, you may well expect great sound coming out of Twitch.