How would you route this?
I want to practice scratching in a bar while there’s no DJ playing but there will be music on as the bar will still be open. How can I route it so that I can listen to traktor in my headphones and I can still use the crossfader etc? Obviously just have like an ipod on one channel for the music in the bar.
Thanks for any help
im guessing being a bar, they will have a seperate general music system so just do it in ur headphones
?? I don’t understand. It’s a bar so they have only one general music system. Mixer into amp, amp into speakers
This has to be one of the most basic questions I’ve ever read here?
Assume you’ve got a (minimum) 2 channel mixer? Plug the iPod into 1 channel. Keep that fader UP. That’ll send the iPod music to the master out (speakers).
Scratch on the other channel. Turn that fader all the way DOWN. Activate PFL (pre-fader listen) or activate headphone cue for that channel, and your laughing. You can even route the iPod into your 'phones too and scratch along to that.
Suggest you search on-line for the manual for that mixer and learn how to split cue.
THAT is the absolute MOST BASIC aspect of DJ’ing. You should already know that if your playing out, eh? 
Erm, and I can use the crossfader how?
he misunderstood your question
Oh, I thought it was THE MOST BASIC question in the aspect of DJing?
maybe run the i-pod throught the effects send/return?
I wanna use the crossfader dude!
This may be the overly obvious question, but how come you want to “practice” at a bar? why not just do it at home?
Depends what mixer your using, if you have a decent one youll be able to put the ipod channel as ‘thru’ and assign the other channel to a side on the CF. that way no matter where the CF is the ipod will always play and you can cue in the ipod and your scratching track
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Not in my country dude. I’m away for the summer.
Pioneer DJM 800. Don’t think they have a ‘thru’ option. I know there’s a few dedicated scratch mixers on the market that let you monitor the master but they are rare. The ipod isn’t a major issue. Had a chat with the boss and he said he can just whack a music channel on the TV. So now I just need to figure out how I can practice in the headphones. The amps don’t have headphone outputs as they are club amps.
ehhmm.. right under the channel faders, the djm800 has a thru option.
So, umm…wow.
I’m amazed. But no one in this thread has a clue how to do this…either that or they still don’t understand the OP’s question.
Now…for what you really want. How would I route that. There are 2 things I’d try: something free, and something dumb.
First, the free one. Plug the iPod into the DJM-800’s return (for the effects loop). Set the effects section to channel “1” and “send/rtn”, turn the level/depth all the way to the right and turn it on. That should send the iPod signal out to the mixer’s master output regardless of what else is happening while killing channel 1’s output to the master by taking the post-fader signal from channel 1 and send it out the effects send.
So…plug your turntable or whatever you’re scratching with into the input for channel 1 and set the mixer up however you want for scratching (with regard to faders, CF, etc.). Now here’s where I’m not sure it’s going to work…if the loop is post-fader, it’s fine. Take the fx send (which is capturing the signal coming out of channel 1) and use a cable to send it to channel 2 (or 3, or 4…whatever), set it as line level, turn the volume all the way down on that channel (maybe put a piece of tape in the way just in case), and hit cue for that channel.
If it works the way I think it does, you’re cuing the post-fader signal from channel 1 (your scratching), and killing its master output…at the same time, you’re sending the iPod straight to the master output.
I think that does everything you want…the only thing I’m not sure about is whether the DJM-800’s effects loop is post-fader, because I’ve never really paid attention to its effects when I’ve mixed on it.
And the dumb idea…buy a small PA mixer. Plug the iPod and the DJM-800 into it. Cue the DJM-800’s master signal and cut it’s volume on the PA mixer…blah blah blah…I’m sure this makes sense. The Behringer Xenyx mixers are actually really good at this. Their mic pres are noisy, but the line-level path sounds okay to my ears. And the one that’s best suited for doing what you want costs like $40.
Also, I didn’t read much of page 2 because I got pissed off at people…if you can just kill the master out on the mixer, there’s a cue button on the master channel between the pan control and the mono/stereo switch…might want to look into what that does.
the audio source from the bars music must come from somewhere. either a hard drive or cd. so just take it out the mixer and plug directly into the amp. make sure u turn volume down they wont be happy if you trash amp and pa system. then you have you decks to practice on that are not connected to the PA.
then just set your cans to master, that really isnt that hard is it
Ha haa. Sorry dude, wasnt in front of the mixer when I wrote that. And when somebody else said the “thru” option that wasn’t what I was thinking. I was thinking about a master cue with the option to cue the crossfader in the headphones. I know there’s a couple of mixers that can do that.
With regard to all the other responses about plugging things in and unplugging this that and the other. I should have stressed that the manager is a 45ish year old spanish dude still living in the past thinking if you unplug something it will break.
Anyway, sorted it now, but cheers for all the help
Set cue to master.
Turn down master gain.
Ta daaa
My post wasn’t wrong. If we take the DJM800 example above - set the cue to Channel 1, set one side of the crossfader to Channel 1, and turn the fader for that channel all the way down.
Now your scratching in your headphones. Nothing from Channel 1 coming out of the mixer.
THAT’S how you use the crossfader.
@Buffalo: That wont work since cueing isn’t post cross fader.
You’re trippin bruv!