"I just feel like i'm blending songs and ive learned all i can from it"

“I just feel like i’m blending songs and ive learned all i can from it”

I keep reading comments like this on dj sites and im sorry, until you can mix like this man…

or this man

and your mixes with just 2 tracks either sound this polished…

or this polished live

Then you havent mastered anything.

sorry guys, had to vent. i keep reading comments like this on dj sites and its driving me nuts. especially when im a guy thats ok with the sync button. noob comments like that are actually driving me away from using it simply because i dont want to be associated with people that would make rediculous comments like “ive mastered beatmatching”.

./rant

The problem is bedroom DJ’s have no crowd to feed off. They don’t realize that just playing the correct song at the right time is all you need to do. The way I see it extra effects are like a very rich icing on a cake. To much and it’ll make you sick.

Yup, beatmatching is the easiest part. Overall feeling, dealing with energy peak, build ups, creativity , even if subjective, is the hardest part, that’s your own signature… like pineapple on pizza… oh noes :disappointed:

good i hope they get tired of it and find something else they can take the piss out of.

I haven’t seen too many comments like this, but I have seen some. I’ll have to say until you learn to USE the songs instead of just mixing them you’ve got a long ways to go.

I’ll have to agree with photojojo as well.

IMHO its better for a beginner to stick with just mixing 2 songs together for a year or more and then get involved with effects and samples.

@ xtianw amen to that :wink:
If you’re done learning, time to quit and learn something else .
.. Also, thanks for the linkage to sasha’s SC, grabbing a couple sets off there now mate!

im still learning how to beatmatch by ear…its tough

I saw this thread title, and I loled.

For sure.

You have to love what you sound like before anyone else will, and if its an emotional thing you cannot ask someone else for guidance…

You have to progress through your own institutional decisions, or you are quite literally just another carbon copy.

If you brain isn’t just shooting ideas at you when you listen to music, and furthermore, if you don’t have the well roundedness as a DJ to know exactly how you can implement all these personal ideas that your brain will just come up with (trust me, its art, once you have practiced enough you don’t think about it, you just do it, and inspiration has a sort of magic way of just happening), then you have simply not stood in front of the decks “listening” and “thinking” long enough…

And you have spent far to much time in front of the decks PLAYING.

DJing, imho, is the pursuit of perfection when one knows full well that perfection is a wholly unattainable goal.

A good DJ will strive to be better today than he was the day before, in all aspects of his career as a DJ, and as well his life, fully accepting the fact that there will never come a day when he can no longer get any better.

And in this way the “greatness” that one can achieves is infinite, as the road never ends.

If it’s a form of ‘dj writers block’ it’s understandable. All creative types go though it. But if it’s ‘I’ve got one aspect of this down and now I’m bored or ain’t no more to learn’ then pack it up and move on.
Reminds me of when I wanted to learn to scratch, for no good reason but to keep my hands busy. Not because the set would sound better, not because the crowd would enjoy it, but just because my hand weren’t busy enough. Snapped out of it, now focusing on my set and sound , not my hands.

i love pineapple pizza. btw, montreal eh?

(OT) I’m coming in march! whats there to see?!

Mixing is nothing… understanding the crowd and knowing how to use the tracks is everything.

In fact less than 1% of your audience will notice the mixes or understand what you are doing, but all of them will know if the party is hot or not.

Even Q-bert (arguably the best scratcher in the world) is boring after 10 minutes…

Knowing when you’re getting boring and knowing what to do about it is also a skill any dj should have.

QFT

Quoted. For. Truth.

lol!

+1

[quote=“Johnv, post:5, topic:19437, username:Johnv”]
I haven’t seen too many comments like this, but I have seen some.
[/quote]No offense, but that makes it sound like you don’t get on forums very much. If that’s the case, then you may be better off than all of us.

IMHO, it’s better for everyone to stick with just mixing 2 songs together until they have a real reason not to. Ever since the first time I got something other than Vinyl, I’ve had to constantly remind myself of that belief. And my sets are always better just after I’ve ditched everything complicated.

I still think that 3 decks are somewhat necessary to get around how jumpy hot cues are and to help you work ahead a bit, since no one remembers tracks as well as the think they do. But I really believe that simple is the key.

A long (2-3 hours) set of simple A/B mixing that leaves people speechless and with tremendous memories is the crowning achievement of any DJ as far as I’m concerned. And it’s something that vey few I can think of have managed.

Thank you to the OP for this thread. I was beginning to think that I was the only person left.

Also…the sync button and I have become good friends. Just because some idiots use something useful doesn’t mean that the tool is inherently wrong. It just means that you’ve got to be that much more right.

^ Word.

and of course, you guys get it.

nothing wrong with the button. but theres something that beatmatching analog style, hell even waveriding can only teach you about putting 2 songs together and making them sound as one.

the sync button takes all of that away from you.

the reason i posted this. is because i want the new guys to LEARN to be BADASS and melt my face off in 5 years.

im pushing 40, these youngins gotta be taught right.

I wanna see all these new dj’s succeed.

Unfortunately there isn’t enough water in the pond so to speak.

And the “population” of new DJ’s grows exponentially by the day.

People who are doing it cause it got popular all of a sudden need to fail, and go back to dancing at parties, instead of hindering the dance-floors ability to do so with their self loathing ineptitude.

I use it i love it, i also couldnt give a monkeys chuff what people think, i am also pushing 40 this year, i started on 1210’s in the 80’s so in that respect i did my time, now i get to enjoy the sync button of love…

Something that Sasha clearly lacks. I’ve seen him twice in the 00s and he was incredibly tedious. Smooth as silk, just lacking any urgency or excitement.

Wow, I kinda feel like a jerk for asking THIS yesterday now. Or is that not what you mean?

Truth is some of us are noobs and want to ask for help and advice.