Mapping help needed for A&H - Xone K2 (+ DB4)

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Mapping help needed for A&H - Xone K2 (+ DB4)

Hi gents,

First of all let me inform you that I have been a very silent follower/reader the past few years, with very few posts.
But now seems like i need your help.
After buying and selling equipment to experiment and feel which setup would be best, I finally (hopefully) settled with a DB4 (which still costs an awful lot of money!) in combination with a K2.
Most of the time I only use 2 decks in combination with a remix deck.

Since most of previous equipment was from NI, I successfully tried and tweaked the midimaps provided on DJTT’s forum. Most of the tweaking was basic stuff.
But since I started a new mapping for DB4 and K2 from scratch, I’m struggling with a higher level of mapping; modifier and such.

  1. I started with a device mapping for DB4 and afterwards one for the K2.
    I searched through the forum, however could not find a solution to merge the 2 into 1 device mapping.
    Traktor Tools online, seems not to work correctly for the latest version to TP2(3) (some midi note assignments would be left blank).
    The copy and paste in texteditor - way did not work either.
    Buying Xtreme mapping for this 1 time correction seems not justifiable.
    Would be nice to have al mappings into one sheet or table (since K2 is connect/powered with DB4 by UTP cable)

  2. Bottom button block - latching layers off.
    Since I don’t need 3 layers - nor the need for pressing buttons like a mad man to get the right layer - and wanted to adjust the colours for each button, i decided to use the modifiers/shift buttons with latching layers off.

Shift off
row 1 + 2 control Deck A - first 4 buttons are hotcues - next play/pause - loop active on, etc
row 3 + 4 control Deck B - idem
colour coding + beat phase (play/pause) works fine

Shift 1 - modifier 1 (layer button on K2)
row 1 + 2 control Deck A - next 4 hotcues
row 1 + 2 control Deck B - idem

Shift 2 - modifier 2 (exit setup button on K2)
Is used to trigger remix deck samples (this was a pretty complex procedure!)
However I think i managed to do it correctly for all 4 pages. Deck loaded; light up - Playing; blinking.

Now when shifts are not pressed, the sample button which has been triggered keeps flashing even when in hotcue mode/layout - which I only want to blink when shift 2 is pressed.

Has this something to do with the COND1 + COND2 of the remix deck SLOT/CELL STATE or BEAT PHASE?

Furthermore, pressing shift 1, for hotcues 5-8 and releasing it - comes automatically back to hotcues 1-4 layout.
However when using shift 2, to trigger samples, and releasing it, keeps the remix deck layout thus not returning to hotcues1-4 layout.

I know it has something to do with the send state, which I included but maybe not setup correctly?

Sorry if I explained this in a very confusing way, may have to do with the language barrier.

Hope you guys can help me out.

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Problem is with modifiers assigned to the Beat phase commands.
Your screencapture is small to read so I will guess that the first condition is assigned with “Sample Page Modifier” and your secondary modifier condition is assigned with the “Slot State Modifier”?

At least one of this conditionals should be assigned with Modifier 2 so the beat phase could be canceled when you release the Shift 2 button.

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Thanks Stewe !! That did the trick !!

However light states remain (exept no beat phase blinking anymore) the same when shift 2 is released this not going back to light/colour state at layout zero (when shift 1 or 2 are not pressed)

Could this have to do with 2 device mappings and in/out port only on DB4 as both devices are linked via RJ45 cable?
If i do not insert the modifiers in one of the two mappings the modifier state (0-1) does not change value.
I was wondering if merging the 2 mappings would solve this?

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Cool. Same applies to all remix deck commands though. Each one need a M2 assigned to it.

So if you mapped all four sample pages, than each one should be created with a single modifier

Sample Page 1 is M2=1
Sample Page 2 is M2=2
Sample Page 3 is M2=3
Sample Page 4 is M2=4

When you let go oh the Shift 2 button M2 equals 0.

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Hi Stewe, I did not map sample pages to a Modifier. Sample page selector is mapped to an encoder.
Maybe I did not explain myself well enough in words, maybe the attached is self-explanatory.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Shift 0: Black - Hotcues 1-4 Deck A+B
Shift 1: Red - Hotcues 5-6 Deck A+B
Shift 2: Yellow - remix deck D

When i press M1, all buttons and lights are fine, releasing it brings everything back to Shift 0 Layout,
However when pressing M2, all buttons and lights+blinking playing resp. cells are fine, releasing it keeps the same light state+blinking.

If i need to add screenshots of my mappings just say the word.

K2 overlaypdf.pdf (9.5 KB)

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Never mind my previous post.
After hours of staring at the screen, scrolling and clicking and with trial and error I managed to get things (mostly) done.

However, since I have been assigning Modifier 2 to one of the 2 conditions (iso of Sample Page mod. in this case) as per your advice, blinking state stays on all four pages for that cell, and not following the cell blinking condition on each individual page.

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It should work if you used same modifier and 4 different values (states).

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:confused: you lost me there

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Sample Page 1 is M2=1
Sample Page 2 is M2=2
Sample Page 3 is M2=3
Sample Page 4 is M2=4

This means that:
-all beatphase commands of Sample Page 1 need to be assigned with M2=1
-all beatphase commands of Sample Page 2 need to be assigned with M2=2
-all beatphase commands of Sample Page 3 need to be assigned with M2=3
-all beatphase commands of Sample Page 4 need to be assigned with M2=4

You are not using actual “Sample Page” modifier. Instead you are creating the same function with Modifier 2.

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I had to change all cell triggers and states as well, but works like a charm now !!!

Highly appreciated Stewe !!

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Cool! I’m glad that worked.

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Something’s wrong, I’ve been messing with the settings again and messed/f***** it all up again.
Now I really can’t get it right.
Added screenshots to let you have a look what I’m exactly doing wrong.

Sorry for my stupidity, but when mapping MF twister it seems this was much easier.





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The Modifier 2, Is it mapped only to the Shift buttons?
And what is your mapping workflow?

It looks like you are manually selecting a Sample Page and than accessing it with Shift (M2 1-2-3-4)

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It is only mapped to the shift button (exept for the send state)

I thought i needed to map these as per your above post.

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Ok in that case only remove the second modifier condition from each of M2 commands. Let it be listening only to Sample Page modifier.

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My original though was to use actual Modifiers instead og Sample Page modifier because it is less complicated for K2 to understand… K2 mappings are always tricky if you want to use modifiers and map same colors in different modifier states (latching layers off).

Also create separate mappings for your Mixer and controller if possible. You want avoid using All Ports setting so you can troubleshhot this without getting midi loops and conflicting ch/note/signals.

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Ok i’ll give it a try. But still with modifier ‘set value’ to 1,2,3,4 ?

I indeed agree that mapping becomes somewhat tricky with K2’s