Midi fighter with innofader
Is this possible?
Everything I have read has talked about using alps faders.
Very interested in the possibility of creating a midifighter scratch mixer for TSpro
Definitely possible, they cost a fair stack of gold though
I’m actually a sales rep for Audio Innovate, who manufacture the Innofader. If you’re interested in slapping one in a MIDI Fighter, you should speak to Elliot Marx, our head designer. You hit him up at support at audioinnovate dot com.
Wow… That would be the addition I would be looking for! 
Let me know if you have any trouble getting in touch with Elliot.
Hey All,
This is the first time I’ve heard of a MIDI fighter to be honest. But this is kinda cool.
I’d imagine since this is all digital it should be easy enough to get the Innofader to work. Could you show me the links for the alps faders? The key is you need a power supply (probably 3.3V or 5V) and somehwere to hook up the Innofader output.
We’ve had many DJs already install the Innofader on devices which use MIDI like the DJM-800, TTM-57, DDM-4000, and the Xone:4D and it works fine. MIDI controller knobs have a numeric range from 0 to 127. The Innofader itself has a range of 0 to 255 so it has enough extra resolution to allow you to get the full range MIDI output. The MIDI signal itself comes from the mixer, and with what you are talking about, the MIDI fighter would read the Innofader signal and convert it to MIDI.
Hopefully this helps you get started. We have other guys taking peeks at this so just in case I’m slow to respond hopefully other knowledgable peeps can help out and perhaps nudge me once in a while 
Welcome emarx! http://www.alps.com/ I’m not sure which specific fader they’re talking about though.
Actually I was looking for the links which showed the Alps fader hookups to the MIDI fighter.
@emarx, shouldn’t connecting the Inno in 3 pin work ( that’s how we do the Pro X in the VCI-100)? The Alps is 3 pin; 5V, GND & Signal as indicated on the Midi Fighter PCB.
Phil.
@pilmat: The 3 pin connector might work, but it’s possible the power and ground are reversed. In this case the crossfader cable should plug into the corner of the 6 pin socket as shown here:
Another issue I’m concerned about is the Innofader has a 5V regulator itself, so if the voltage is slightly off, the fader may not cut 100% on one side. Whether or not this issue will show up depends on the MIDI fighter internal software. I’ll try to post a simple mod soon on our forum because something similar is required for the Denon DX-1500 mixer.
The new Innofader Pro we are working on should have no issues at all. The power can be reversed, and the output is always full range from 0 to whatever the power supply is, from 2.5V up to 20V.
Is there enough space for the Innofader, and are the mounting holes correct?
If someone could test this that would be really cool!
Elliot
The 5V supply requirement is going to be an issue I think, as the MF is powered from the USB it can only supply 5V.
The MF doesnt have any mechanical allowance for a cross fader, but it has an expansion header which allows you to connect extra controls.
That’s the part where it becomes a real DIY hack, I think. You’d need a separate hardware port for the Innofader, as well as an extension to the body of the MIDI Fighter itself.
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4 analog and 4 digital… it could be really interesting!
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Elliot, I’m sure the community here would love to see this mod reviewed. So in the spirit of spurring on this conversation, I measured the voltage output on my MF Aux ports for information (across the 5V and GND).
Connected to rear MBP USB port:
Unloaded = 5.04 VDC
Loaded (all 16 buttons pressed and LEDs on) = 4.94 VDC
Connected to powered, multi-TT USB hub (Cables Unlimited 7 port):
Unloaded = 5.13 VDC
Loaded (all 16 buttons pressed and LEDs on) = 4.91 VDC
Instrument: Techtronix TX1 multimeter w/stock leads
As far as testing the fader, that would be easy for me to do, as I can get a piece of acrylic cut quickly to add a slot and holes for the fader mounting. Also boosting the MF height for Inno clearance is very easy too. And after fitting a ProX to both a VCI-100 and an Ecler Nuo 2 (NOT a 2.0 !!), I would have no problem with the mod. But as I am not a scratcher, I might not be the best to demo the mod.
Let us know what you think with the above info, Phil.
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Modular design will be great… I will love get freedom for xfade positioning in this kind of controller.
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how can you add a aditional fade ron the midi fighter?
do you need a new circuit? is there any how to guide here on this forum?
@ericn91
The Midi Fighter comes with 8 expansion slots, 4 digital and 4 analogue.
Here is one example of expansion with the 4 analogue slots: DIY Mod: Cuban MIDI Crisis - DJ TechTools
These are pots, but the principle is the same.
There are others here in the forum, just search for them.
Phil.
I have a midi fighter and a spare Innofader ready to test. if somebody is willing to hook me up with some diagrams of how i should be wiring this, i am willing to document my findings. I am extremely excited about this possibility and would like to keep this thread alive if possible.
+1. Sounds like an IDEAL mod for the Midi Fighter.
I’m going to send this along to Elliot Marx, the head engineer of Audio Innovate. I’m a sales rep for them, so I’ve been keeping my eye on this thread.
The main problem you’re going to encounter is that the MIDI Fighter doesn’t have the necessary ports to incorporate the fader. This might be a pretty complicated hack if it’s doable at all.