Mixed in key vs. Beatport - confused, feeling buyers remorse

Mixed in key vs. Beatport - confused, feeling buyers remorse

Hey all,

I’ve seen a lot of great videos and read a few articles on harmonic mixing. I love the concept and it also helps to sort my collection of tracks. So far I’ve been using beatport as my main source of keys which I convert into the camelot system. This is quite a hassle though, and having heard a lot of great things about Mixed in Key I decided to buy it.

I’m not a music theory expert, and I don’t have perfect pitch at all (who has :stuck_out_tongue:). I just bought the new Kill Kill Kill Ep from Kill the Noise (Kill The Noise, Ultraviolet Sound, Emily Hudson - Kill Kill Kill EP [OWSLA] | Music & Downloads on Beatport)

I have two problems:

  1. the key on beatport doesn’t match the key that mixed in key detects.
  2. Some keys like D# Major doesn’t seem to appear on the camelot wheel, why mixed in key decides that this track Kill The Noise - Deal With It (Original Mix) [OWSLA] | Music & Downloads on Beatport (D# Major) is 2A. The A category is for minor keys, so I’m really confused. Maybe I’m missing something.

So my question is, should I trust Mixed in Key or beatport? I don’t want to test the key on a keyboard on every new track that I buy as I would end up using more time on tagging my music than actually playing it.

If it turns out that beatport is more accurate, then I hope that I can get a refund.

D sharp major = E flat major

These different analysis tools very often disagree with each other. But results from one particular tool are more likely to harmonically agree with ‘themselves’ (ie. the results may be wrong, but they are consistently wrong). Therefore it is desirable to use only one analysis tool to analyse your music.

For me, I only purchase a small minority of my tracks from Beatport. Hence I analyse in MIK.

Perfect answers from both. Thanks :slight_smile:!

Wanna feel buyers remorse? Check our rapid evolution for key detection, it is as acurate as mixed.

Yes, but the UI makes baby Jesus cry blood.

I prefer better MIK than Rapide evo… :sunglasses:

I was actually looking into trying some software out for this. For now i wanna just try out rapid evolution but i cant get it to work on my computer, until I have money that I can spend on mixed in key

I too tried RA2, but I couldn’t get it to work. It wouldn’t detect keys :S I installed it as the site told me to, even installed the crappy software known as quicktime. At that point I just stopped trying after spending 1-2 hours with it. Probably great if you can get it to work.

I tried but gave up. :disappointed:

That also was my prob and I also gave up. It looks to difficult if you compare it with MIK :smiley:

I used the beta version of Rapid Evolution 3…what’s so difficult?

Import music
Detect all
write tags
done

You can also import your tractor collection from the collection.nml file.
Detect All
Write Tags
Done

In Traktor the updates won’t change automatically…so you have to highlight you’re entire collection, right click, edit (don’t edit anything), hit ok…done!

There is also the option to automatically write tags when you first set up RE3, or you can change it in the settings later. Which honestly makes it a two step process…import, detect.

Edit to add, if you’re importing your iTunes collection, nothing will change in iTunes either until the track is played…or you can select all, right click, convert id3 tag, select the newest one 2.4 click ok…all tags updated.

I have no idea I cant even get it to start up, it starts loading and never starts it. Maybe Ill try the RE3 Beta now. How well would you say it works?

For what its worth, I installed RE2 on my old laptop and it was a resource hog and sucked - I don’t think I got it to work either.

the beta for 3 works flawlessly, in my opinion.

thats most likely the issue then, Ill give it a shot now then. Thanks

RE2/3 is not very good at handling big file loads. If you are analyzing 10-20 tracks its perfect. But if you are going for an entire library, forget about it.

The great things about RE are that you have a lot of different options for how you can store the key/bpm info (although bpm is not as good as most DJing software), you can also edit and fill in ID3 tags (although again only in small file batches). Oh and its FREE.

If you are having issues getting it to run it might have to do with the amount of RAM memory you assigned to it. If you have a x64 OS you can give it more than 1500 but for x32s the max amount is 1500.

The way i currently roll is key detect with RE3 and ID3 tags with media monkey.

Got it working fine but yea too many tracks and it automatically shuts down so what Im going to do is take the playlist I was planning on mixing from and detect 20 at a time

Tried it out and cant get the keys to show up in Traktor :confused:

You have to use the “write tags” right click menu option in RE3.

RE2 and RE3 always locked up my computer no matter how big of batches I was analyzing. Def not a spec issue… i5 processor 6g ram, Win 7 64 bit.

I fiddled with all of the settings, but always 2 or 3 tracks in I lock up. The $60 for MIK was totally worth it for me. I analyzed every song I have (8600) with no problem. Took a couple days, but I literally did every single one in 3 batches.