You should definitely WAIT. The new software looks pretty fookin’ sweet. I’m sure you’ll regret buying the knock-down version when you see what the new software is like…
If you don’t have any super-important gigs soon, you should just wait for the new packages, because you’ll have the choice whether to buy the old ones or new ones.
You can probably pick up a used A2,4,8 for cheap if someone upgrades to the new ones.
You will not be able to sell it. You can’t sell it now except to idiots, which is what you are if you purchase it.
They’re releasing new hardware. Based on all of their past behavior, that means that the old hardware will NOT be supported, even without using the new capabilities. They did it with the FS1 hardware, the FS1.5 hardware, the Stanton Scratch Amp, the thing in between, and now they’re going to do it with the audio 4 and audio 8 dj.
They’re worthless as of the day the new ones were leaked. If you don’t believe me, I’ve got a Stanton Scratch Amp in mint condition that I’ll sell you for half off the original price.
I’m sorry I’m so adamant about this idea, but if you want to use TSP as it is now it’s not a horrible price. You will NEVER be able to upgrade until you buy new hardware and that’s just how it is.
If you just need an audio interface…wait a few weeks and you’ll be able to get Audio 4 DJs for $75…or buy something that isn’t going to plummet in value based on the whims of a corporation that makes a few good products but doesn’t care about its customers.
it is so fun to choose what to buy i have a time till saturday morning to choose, so hope to get some more opinions and most of all leaks about new hardware!
as i don’t want to spend 600 euros but only around 300euros, better for me will be to buy and OLD Por version, and then go for an upgrade somewhere later. i think it will not cost more then 100 euros.
I don’t believe you unless you make 6-figures from NI and can prove it with paystubs and/or the company org chart. Sorry. I’ve heard that from insiders before.
I also don’t think there’s any reason for someone like that to be answering to some idiot on a forum like me. So…whatever.
Seriously, everyone…just be careful. I’m obviously talking as someone who got screwed at some point, but NI has done this same thing every other time they’ve had the chance. And they still kept customers. I realize that part of it was done because of the unfortunate legal issues that happened when they stopped working with Stanton, and I’m more pissed off at Stanton than NI (hence, using Traktor).
Still, the interface that became FS Open is relatively open. Unless there’s something legal I’m not aware of, Traktor Scratch could still work with it. I’ve seen it done…as a hack…and a violation of Traktor Scratch’s EULA.
There is no way in hell that it’s worth saving a few hundred bucks to potentially just have to spend even more if the new software comes out and isn’t compatible with the existing sound cards. But, that’s my opinion. If you need it now, you need it now.
The actual reason I think that’s what’s happening…the audio 10, or whatever it’s called. The A8DJ had enough I/O to control the sample decks. Nothing in the teaser seemed to imply that you’d get 4 full decks and sample decks. Ten outputs (meaning 5 stereo channels) seems both excessive for a DJ interface and just a weird number. It’s possible they wanted you to have independent outputs for each of 2 full decks and 2 sample decks…plus a stereo pair of I/O for insert effects. But, I haven’t seen anything to imply that it’s not just an upgrade so they can discontinue and stop supporting the existing interfaces.
I could–obviously–be wrong.
Also, keep in mind that all of this is moot if you want to use HID mode of CDJs. Apparently, it’s not quite as good as SSL’s implementation, but it seems to work the few times I’ve seen it done. And that requires neither an NI interface nor Traktor Scratch. I’d go that route long before I’d buy another NI interface at all.
@mostapha,
if you are talking to me, then you are wrong i am the person who started th thread and the person that is so so so hesitating between taking the risk or spend a lot of money for new expensive hardware/software
as i told, i need TSP to scratch using my 1200 and i want to record my sets, so i will have to go either for Audio8J or New Audio10 or whatever they will name it…
No, i was talking to the guy who said they’d be supported.
If you need it now, you need it now. If you’re making money based off DJing and you think it’ll make your life easier…go for it, especially if you’ll make back what it cost before the new one comes out.
If you’re a hobbyist–like most of us–and are pinching pennies and trying to keep up to date, never buy something outdated.
Pros buy what they need when they need it. In times like these, amateurs should wait.
It’s like with photography. If getty or someone suddenly told me “we’ve seen your stuff on flickr and we want to send you around the world. congrats, you’re a travel photographer,” I’d instantly go $15,000 in debt for 2 new bodies, the 2 top-end lenses i’d actually use, and replacing my damaged flash…even if Nikon announced the next-gen stuff coming out in 2 weeks. I’d also probably buy a MacBook Air, update my license for Photoshop, and make sure I have the latest version of Aperture…with no regard to price. If the situation is like that, it’s not worth waiting.
No offense…I’m what you’d call an amateur as well…but if you were in that pro group, you wouldn’t be asking for advice on a forum…you would have bought it already.
Ok, you obviously have an axe to grind here so im not gonna get into a pointless argument here.
For all those reading this thread for the truth and not just speculative scarmongering here are some facts.
As Maxted has already stated:
FACT
The new software works with existing Audio 8 and Audio 4 with timecode. Of course it does, and its ridiculous to say other wise. It wouldnt be a software upgrade if it didnt.
FACT
There is no truth to the malicious rumor being spread that the new software requires the new soundcards.
FACT
This is not the FS days all over again. Anyone making this comparison is living in the past (no matter how annoying it might have been). This is not a fair comparison that helps any new Traktor user make an informed decision.
Obviously im not going into any further detail on the software/hardware but i cant just sit back and let people peddle misinformation when DJTT members are looking for some clarity on such a fundamental issue.
I honestly hope that is the case. If NI has changed their ways, I’ll buy one of the new interfaces instead of going with someone else’s, and I’m waiting to find out. I just have seen no reason to believe that will be the case unless Maxted is actually sombody, at which point I probably owe him/her an apology.
You’re going to need way more than $15,000. You could do it with two bodies, but you would need a minimum of four lenses plus a whole crap ton of other stuff that’ll make your back ache just looking at it. And that’s a bare bones move fast in a war zone kit. And that’s not even considering the video and audio stuff that most of us are carrying now days.
EDIT: I’ve never worked for Getty, but both them and the AP have used my images.
