New Soundcloud Copyright Law - Bye Bye DJs?

New Soundcloud Copyright Law - Bye Bye DJs?

So I just made a mix today, all excited to upload it to soundcloud. I get it done, in the process of uploading it, and as soon as the transcoding was complete, I get redirected to a different page than usual.

It’s a page that informs me that one of my tracks (the 1st track, Icarus by Madeon), is owned by a record label and my upload has been cancelled due to copyright laws. Really, you can say that about every single tune in all of my mixes.In other words, I can’t upload any sets to soundcloud anymore, and this obviously applies to others as well.

Opinions on these new laws?

For me this is brutal, as my entire fanbase and listeners come from soundcloud. I’ve built basically everything upon soundcloud and now I cannot upload any more mixes. I understand where they are coming from for the producers’ side of things, but as a DJ we are all pretty well fucked when it comes to using soundcloud…which blows big time.

They’ve actually been doing this for over a year.
http://blog.soundcloud.com/2011/01/05/q-and-a-content-identification-system/

did it to me once
havent had it happen again since.

Hmm well this is the first time it’s happened for me. It’s weird though how only certain tracks are blocked. I think it’s a little unorganized on their part, theoretically ALL dj mixes are copyrighted unless you are putting on your own music in there. I am not going to re-do my mix to get rid of one song just for soundcloud…looks like mixcloud it is for me then. Not to mention mixcloud is free while soundcloud charges a LOT of money if you plan on uploading over 12 hours of mixes…

Most likely that record label or artist complained to Soundcloud and thats why they can’t allow it. I heard of people putting dead air in front of the song or white noise to get around it. Honestly, I’d just go to mixcloud…I like the fact that its free over the absurd prices soundcloud charges.

This has happened to me once. Mix was up over 6 months and got taken down because i used the vangelis blade runner theme at the start. i solved this by fading in the start and re-uploading and all was good.

Some peeps use this… It looks interesting. Has a dl link too

http://www.mixcrate.com/

So it sounds like this doesn’t happen too often and only occurs with certain tracks.

Part of me wants to still stick with soundcloud and work around this (i.e. remaking sets to suit soundcloud), but another part of me doesn’t. The way I see it:

Soundcloud Benefits:

  • sleek interface, easy for people to listen to your stuff
  • way more views, most well known audio sharing resource (basically the youtube of music)
  • already have my fanbase there (almost 80k total plays)
  • downloadable audio files

Soundcloud Downsides:

  • costs a LOT of money if you want to post more than 12 hours of music
  • alternatives are less well known, generally worse interfaces
  • can make you re-do sets over and over again for copyright reasons

Conclusion:

Soundcloud - more work, more money, more frustration, for more views
Mixcloud - less work, free, but less views

Jeez…that’s quite tricky to be honest. As much as I don’t want to admit it’s all about the views, they really do make a big difference…

How much fading did you do exactly? Like 5 minutes of fading or was like 5 seconds enough? Hoping for the latter haha…

just a stardard fade-in. from memory i put a little delay on it also.

I’m going to try that..

Weird why the fade-in worked though. I didn’t include all of the track that was copyrighted…fade-in shouldn’t really do much..

Still will try it.

I use house-mixes.com now, seem to get more views than anywhere else

If everyone to which that is happening just sends an e-mail to the label saying “I hate this copyright claim you did there, now I’m never going to buy any the music released by you guys again” they soon enough will discover that this is not the way to go if they want to survive any longer in this industry.

But that’s my thought of it :sleeping:

I’ve taken down all of the mixes I did because I kept getting this. I only use SC now to upload any bootleg/mashup tracks I do and I just stick a 15min silence at the start, it’s worked so far…

Just tried it Jester, didn’t work :disappointed:

ya looks like mixcloud it is. see ya soundcloud lol.

had the same problem with woo by SX. was the first track of the mix, too.. just mixed in a 2nd track from the beginning and it worked

tbf, soundcloud was designed for artists to debut tracks and receive comments about them, whereas mixcloud was designed to host mixes (and more importantly is setup to actually pay the artists for the tracks used …)

it seems likely that the comparison you’re doing is not apples-to-apples.

i’m with the OP on this: i strongly suspect soundcloud is the site giving you the largest number of listens on average.

I guess I play music no one’s ever heard of. I upload two hour mixes every other week and have so for well over a year. I’ve only been flagged on one because of a Deadmau5 song.

the fade in changes the properties of the file enough that soundclouds song identification algorithm was fooled. great thinking.

Let’s all migrate to mixcrate! It’s free and friendly and the interface is lovely. And they actually go through submitted mixes and delete the real junk.