no money in music? no wonder… here is one reason why
Sometimes i think i do it to myself. Today i went looking for trouble basically and thats exactly what i found.
I just got this submission mix from a potential dj for the station.
The mix sounds pretty good but has some strange elements to it when going from track to track.
Its not that the levels are off but something about the overall mastering of the songs is off.
I i pulled up his tracklist for the mix and i started searching.
Not sure exactly what led me to think this was going to turn out this way but
i found every single one of his songs FOR FREE DOWNLOAD on soundcloud.
This guy didnt purchase one single track. (yes i know theres no rule against that) but
So before i emailed him, i happened to ask, “so where do you usually get your music from, are you part of a pool bla bla bla”
He said he only does his shopping on beatport…
Im sorry but i know i asked for it but now… two things
No wonder music sites are hardly making money
there is just something unethical about the results…
yes they werent illegally shared tracks
it was all legit
and to this responce
thats whats got me kinda torn here. ANd i know its just me becase if its my wife, djs, singers, or anyone at the office, i guess i just expect a higher caliber from some people.
Im just being fussy about it im sure.
the people that put the songs on soundcloud were the producers of the songs
they arent commercial tracks
the dj however seems to only use soundcloud as his music source
even though telling me he only purchases beatport available musc
hmm.. i agree with Nicky H, there is nothing wrong about soundclioud tracks but i do understand you. If all his tracks are downloaded from soundcloud is it a possibility that he doesn’t thinks tracks are worth his money so he scales his track sources down to the free alternatives such as soundcloud. This probably results in fewer tracks or lower quallity tracks, because he knows this and doesn’t want you to know about it he lies… atleast thats my theory
My favorite DJ/Producer out there puts TONS of his tracks (remixes) out for free on soundcloud. I could put together a great set with his tracks alone. The money he want’s is not for his FREE song…he wants to get booked to DJ it. I think it’s great this guy does some digging. I think because of posts like this he lied to you and told you Beatport because you’ve created the perception that digging thru soundcloud is bad. Its not.
As long as they are paying for tracks, or digging for free tracks… as long as the sound quality is solid, I really don’t see an issue with this.
It’s modern day digging at it’s finest. You’re going to find some of the stuff you want on beatport, and other things via soundcloud and other means. Doesn’t mean you are doing it wrong. In fact that will give you more depth over time. Tracks are /expensive/ and it’s a fact if you’re keeping up with it. Honestly? I don’t think I’ve ever bought a single moombah or trap song (and probably never will) because I primarily keep up with breaks and dnb. But that doesn’t mean when I come across a good free tune on soundcloud I don’t download it. I’ve done a couple mixes with /just/ shit I’ve gotten from soundcloud. A big part of it is actually making sure things are tagged correctly and the file quality is alright.
I wouldn’t worry about it. And he wasn’t lying, probably all the tracks he buys he gets from beatport.
As a Dj/Producer the sound cloud argument continues. I personally don’t see anything wrong with this and this is why.
The producer wants to get his stuff out there, to make a name for himself. And there is no better price than free. People eat free stuff up all day long.
Usually producers don’t put ALL their secrets out on sound cloud. They usually hold back a few sounds or layouts/instrumentals for their own shows to jazz them up and separate them from everyone downloading their free tracks. Think of the created work flow and the ability to mash up and mix a crazy set from multiple tracks that one has created. Sound cloud currently does not have work flow downloads.
The DJ in question probably likes sound cloud for the variety of tracks that are not top 40 or mainstream.
I have been listening to UMF all week in Miami, and I must say I am very disappointed at how many of the top DJ’s play the “popular” tracks. It seems like all the top names seem to play the same songs.
Although lying about it is where I have a problem. If you just spoke up and said, I find free tunes for variety and get their names out there sounds a whole lot better than telling people you are a beatport shopper.
Personally I don’t think shopping at beatport makes you a DJ. Even though apparently it is very hip to say you shop there or the standard answer to the always popular question “Where do you buy your music”.
playing free music is like using a laptop other than apple or using hardware other than pioneer or NI, it proves you are not willing to invest in becoming a real dj with the same great as anyone else! these people are breaking with tradition and don’t deserve to be called a dj!
no seriously the only thing that matters: do you or do you not like his music?
i didnt know, in order to be a dj, my sources of finding songs have to be done the “right” way. c’mon youre telling me i cant be a dj if i dont buy my music from beatport, etc? djs put out free music everyday, look at a-trak. not all his songs but a lot of it and it’s released on soundcloud.
and that is a poor analogy. you simply cant compare playing free music and playing bought music with using a laptop or Pioneer CDjs/NI. that is ridiculous.