Question for the Ableton gurus

Question for the Ableton gurus

Hey guys so I’m hitting a wall with this edit/mashup track i’m working on, because the song that I’m editing has tempo shifts throughout the entire track.

What I want to do is to maintain the tempo changes in the main track but need a way to apply those tempo shifts to the additional tracks that I will be mixing the main track with. I hope that makes sense.

So is there a way in ableton for me to track or copy the tempo changes in a song and apply those same changes to other audio files? thanks.

not entirely sure, but maybe…groove…extraction…eh? idk sorry =(

yeahhhh..

like i know you can warp a track with tempo variations to a set/static bpm…but i guess what i want to do is make such a track’s bpm control ableton’s bpm.

You just need to keep you timing through the tempo shift.

Say the tempo changes after a small break down. Most likely the tempo shift occurred while there were no beats. So treat the beginning of the breakdown as say the beginning of the song. Figure out how many bars are at the beginning of the breakdown to the first downbeat and just ensure the beginning of a bar starts there. There may be some kind of indication sound that you can do timing to during the breakdown but may not always be the case. And for a tempo that speeds up the opposite to this would be the course.

In Live8 the new way of warping is really a godsend for scenarios such as this because essentially all you will be doing is a groove shift.

It will take you a bit get the hang of it and quite allot of cursing!

but good luck and happy warping

You can set a track to be the tempo master, read da manual on that

OR, and I know this might sound a bit crazy, how about we stopping making mashups altogether and focus on making original music?

Just a thought

Mash-ups ARE original music, sorry to burst your bubble there Nephew.

Yeah, Nephew, didn’t you watch "Rip! A Remix Manifesto " ? hahah

OR, and i know this might sound a bit crazy, how about we stick to the topic or gtfo the thread. just a thought.

any dj worth their salt will eventually produce edits/mashups/bootlegs to set their mixes apart from everyone else. whether or not i produce/compose music in addition to djing is completely besides the point.

OR, maybe you should fuck off already and learn how to use a simple program like Ableton already, especially for something as simple as making your unoriginal mashup

Yeah I did actually, and while I can’t say I like the music or what he’s doing, I do have to respect the time and effort he took to learn and master his craft. Real creative use of tunes, more like an audio collage than a DJ set

hey guy, just gonna fill you in a little tip because you seem to be out of the loop. this community thrives because members can ask each other questions about whatever facet of djing they need help with which in this case is learning a simple program like ableton.

maybe instead of assuming that i don’t write music because i’m interested in creating custom edits for my dj sets, you could offer some of your knowledge about the software in a constructive manner instead. now you’re entitled to your opinion about edits,bootlegs,mashups - but nobody was asking. i wanted to know a specific technique within ableton that could be used for a number of different purposes and believe there are many other members of this forum that could benefit from it.

thanks bento! :slight_smile:

check out abletons manual about the groove engine

it can extract a groove out of an audio track and apply it on other audio clips.
grooves contain timestretch, volume and pan metadata which can then be applied to other clips

twist some knobs, do a bit of experimenting, with some work you can get astonishing results (to get better results, split your main clip into sections, so that every section has its own rythmical style different from the other sections, then extract grooves from every section; split up your audio tracks if you want and then apply the grooves you extracted to the pieces or the whole audio tracks)

My suggestion, if you just want to keep the exact same tempo changes, Is inserting the original track containing the tempo changes on the timeline, and set it up as master tempo. That way the track tempo will be slave and adjust to this one. Then mute that track so you just will use it as tempo reference.

If you wish to make any part longer or shorter just duplicate that part on the muted master track and ableton master tempo will follow

You’re an idiot.

I was going to tell him to do this the manual way, so…yeah…i learned something today. Thanks.

You’re arrogant and pompous.

What’s your point?

The hostility in this thread is unacceptable - calm it down

sorry. and thanks again for teaching me that…not sure if I’ll ever use it, since I usually use straight tempos, but…maybe it’ll help if I actually get around to recording some blues.

agreed, i think there are other forums for that kind of behavior, we should be able to voice opinions without the name calling.