Question Regarding Monitors.

Question Regarding Monitors.

Out of these monitors which would people recommend for my bedroom setup.
I want something thats going to sound nice when the volumes cranked up :smiley:

Mackie MR8 / MR5
KRK RP8 G2 / RP6 G2
KRK VXT 4 (is 4 too small? I couldn’t afford larger VXTs)

is there much sound difference in these above? Iv got around £400 as a budget. Any ideas? cheers.

From my reading around the Mackies are the better of the speakers.

The MR8’s could be overkill unless you plan to take them to house parties.

Just out of interest Bento, what made the Mackies a better buy according to your readings?

Frequency range response mainly, also theres lots of reports of them sounding nicer - i have yet to had the opportunity to hear them side by side though so i can only go on research i have done.

Also lots of the the big dnb producers use the upmarket models of the MR8’s (HR824mk2’s) for making toons - these are the same guys who are setting new levels in production and mastering standards so you can be sure they are a killer speaker. Obviously the MR8’s wont be as hot but for what your paying for you get a brilliant pair of speakers that borrow on the same technology from the HR824mk2’s.

I got the KRK RP6 G2. They are awesome and i would buy them again, especially for the price. I couldn’t even turn the volume all the way up because it was really loud. There is a long review for the RP5’s: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2223506278688654606

On the other side i didn’t hear the other monitors on your list..

The krk’s are very close behind that much is for sure :slight_smile:

Hey Jo3, I’m also looking to get a decent pair of monitors for my home setup and have been looking at tonnes of reviews/opinions on the internet. I’ve finally settled on the KRK RP5’s as i have a small room and i’m going to be monitoring at fairly low levels. thanks jinx for posting the review on these, it’s the best one i’ve came across by far

I think when it comes to the monitors you’re looking at, it breaks down to your room size and also what’s more important to you, volume or sound quality.
If it’s sound quality, I’d go with the VXT’s as they’re made with better components than the RP’s to produce a sweeter sound. There’s a good review on these here http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document/krk/vxt_series_active_2-way_studio_monitors?doc_id=102144

If on the other hand, you want to be blasting the tunes out, it’s really a toss up between the RP8s and MR8s. Personally I’d go with the MR8s.

While I was researching, I tried to find out what some of my favourite producers were using to monitor in their setups. Deadmau5 for example, uses the VXT 8’s because ā€œthey produce a lovely soundā€. Check out his setup here

(i really want that Little Phatty…I mean i REALLY want it :slight_smile:)
While Timbaland uses KRK RP8s in his home studio and Mackies in his tour bus studio.
All in all it’s down to personal preference. I don’t think you could go wrong with either the Mackies or the KRKs. They’re both highly reputable companies producing pro quality monitors.

Hope this helps you out. Let us know which ones you decide to go for :slight_smile:

Hey Bento,

I was trying to find somewhere where I could suggest Ean do an article on monitors for various different budgets. Y’know best monitors between $200-$300, $300 - $500, $500 - $700, that kinda thing. There are so many different monitors out there, it can be a mine field trying to find the right ones for you. I’m sure this could be useful for a lot of fellow DJ Techtoolers.

I know this ain’t really the right place for article suggestions, but I couldn’t see anywhere else to post it. :slight_smile:

The thing with monitors is that a lot of it has to come down, strictly, to placement in the room, placement in relation to your ears, size of the room, style of music all added together.

For basic DJing you don’t really need expensive monitors as they are more for producing beats and the what not.

Also, there is a sticky for Article suggestions up top.

Totally. The difference between the two is somewhat negligible compared to placement factors.

I own mackie MR8s and I have heard them side by side with the HR models and seriously, there isnt heeeaps of difference. Again room makes way more. For thier price the MR8s are awesome. I also do not personally agree with the previous statement about not needing the MR8s unless your going to do parties.

For producing dance music especially bass heavy stuff like DnB or Dubstep (or electro/bassline/fidget/garage… pretty much anything) I don think the 5" drivers give enough low end frequency response and you will want a sub VERY soon. And then a sub is a bitch to setup cos u need to get the crossover & placement right (and it costs way more). Thus I vote for the MR8s which give response down to 38Hz before fadeoff. A sub would still be nice but it can definately wait.

Also if you take them to a party be careful. Set them up so people can damage them and probably put a hardware limiter between them and your soundcard. I just had to send my Mackies in to get the tweaters replaced as someone spilt wine on my soundcard causing a volume spike.

Cheers for the info guys! Looks like I’ll have to take a trip to htfr to check the diference in sound between the mackies and krks.I’d love the vxts but for a decent size I couldn’t justify Ā£700!How does placement of monitors effect the sound? Any tips on correct placement? Cheers

Thanks man. Found it.

Hi Bento, hope you read this, so i dont have to make a new thread. I am also after some new monitors, however i wanted to go with an additional subwoofer. i was after krk rokit 5 and the rp10s subwoofer. what do you think?

i havent read a lot of reviews but the price range was alright and i believe mixing of different components isnt the best idea when i t comes to reference monitors…

KLOSELINE, subwoofers are really delicate for reference monitoring. midian made a post about this in this thread.

You need to be very careful with subwoofers due to acoustics and the sensitivity of bass frequencies in a room that isn’t treated for them. It could make your mixing (speaking from an engineering standpoint, not a DJ perspective) sound a lot more muddled if not handled correctly.

thx for the info, i havent read midians article, but the music hes talking about is pretty much exactly what i spin and produce :-/ thats why i wanted to go with a subwoofer. however i didnt know that its such diffcult to setup a sub. always thought the subwoofer is the easiest thing to setup… hmm

There is a really big difference between plugging a subwoofer into a stereo system that you buy at your local audio shop and hooking a subwoofer up to reference monitors.

The point of reference monitors is to flatten sound so you can get a clear image of what you’re creating. They are more meant for producing music and recording than just listening to yourself DJ. I’m always surprised when a DJ is willing to spend that kind of money on reference monitors when all they are doing is listening to themselves mix which would be fine to do on a regular hi-fi audio system (not recommending PC speakers here).

The thing with reference monitors is that they are highly sensitive to the room you are using them in. There are ideal placements, you need to think about padding to get the most out of them, and you’d need bass traps for a subwoofer, as well as the proper placement in the room to get anything out of it, or else it just might muddle up the sound and you’ll end up getting a VERY different recording than what you hear.

well its obvious that buying reference monitors for djing is defnitely not the best idea, but is there anthing to say against using refeence monitors for djing AND producing?

No, of course not. The songs may sound different, though, through the reference monitors than through something else, but there’s no reason you can’t do it.

Yo man if you already got the KRK’s i would pair them with a KRK subwolfer - if you got a mackie then pair them with the mackies as they were made to be paired with one another.

Try and keep stuff it at low volumes so the room doesnt effect the audio as much. Theres no reason why you couldnt get a subby and infact if you want to go really pro on your tracks your going to need one for.

I also very much agree with Midian on the whole 8" speaker for production thing - if your serious about your production and do alot of work with these low frequencies(like with dnb) then frequency response on the 8" speakers is something your going to want.

If you have problems with your room then the room should be acousticly treated. Just try not to deaden the face wall too much (the one the speakers are pointed at), the main focus should be on the other walls, ceiling and flooring. Also dont over treat your room because that too will sound unnatural, theres a balance between the two that need to be found.