Hmm, it does seem to have hardware level layering but not on all buttons.
The left shift shifts everything on the left side and vice versa for the right shift button.
As far as I tested the 3 knobs in the center, the sync buttons (top left/right corner), the crossfader and the pitch faders cannot be shifted.
well thanks,
so I understand that the level faders and the EQ knobs can be shifted (that’s all I need, perhap’s with the fx buttons) ???
that’d be cool…
thanks for having checked this for me 
cheers
Confirmed. You have to keep the shift buttons pressed though to activate the other layer. They aren’t toggle buttons.
check this :
249euros for a DIGITAL JOCKEY 2 controller edition, available in less than a week…
seems really attractive, isn’t it?
If the 1st version of digital jockeys was quite good, may the second version be better?
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sensitive jogwheels (periphery plastic and center metal plate)
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“pro” faders
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14 bit midi (for the jogs, dunno for the rest)
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2 real midi layers with 2 shift buttons for the right and left side to be accessible independantly
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aluminium housing
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Traktor LE (light version of Traktor PRO)
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price…
???
wekk, DELEMMA DILEMMA !!!
I’ve got a Faderfox DJ2, I’m so happy with it but the problem is that you can’t control the 4 decks in Traktor at once so I’ve been thinking about getting another controller but I think the Vextax is overpriced so I saw the Reloop 2 and thought it was a good buy, I did some research on the Reloop but coudn’t find an answer for this basic questions, maybe you can help me:
-Does the controller edition works just by plugging it to the USB port of the computer or it needs power supply?
-Will I be able to control the 4 decks at once or switch between them with the Reloop?
-And in general, I would like to know if you can do the same things with the Reloop as you do with the Vextax here.
I know this questions are very simple, but I need to be sure before buy it, Im quite new to this controller world, thanks in advance.
pepehouse:
yes, yes, and yes. Reloop 2 seems a great deal for the price!
I just ordered a black VCI 100, couldn’t wait anymore to get my dj controller, I have a show on saturday may 30, so I was in a kind of hurry And I know I’m not really fair with my live gear, so I need first quality built controllers, the vstax was the best choice for me.
But with little budget and no need for a real tank-like gear, the reloop would have been my choice, since it has really great abilities, even that the vci 100 won’t never be able to give you!
good luck!
cheers
I found a VCI-100 for 349€, which is not a bad price but is not the black one which I prefer, where did you ordered yours? It seems I can’t find it in black here in Spain. Also I would like to know if the only difference is the color.
check techsono, it’s an ebay french shop. they got 7 black vci’s in stock, for 379 euros, shipping included (for france, for spain I don’t know).
I ordered mine on monday 2 am (I’m in holidays), and received it on tuesday morning via chronopost.
It’s a reallly good gear, but I found some (minor) things I feel not so good:
- browsing with the dedicated buttons is a pain in the ass: you can’t hold the “down” button to scroll down in your directory, so you have got to press several times to reach the track you need to choose… I guess I’ll still use my mouse for the browsing job, or assign an external midi controller for that (the big rotary on my padkontrol could perfectly do the job, since i’ts not used in my live set)
=> the reloop has a rotary knob for this purpose (much better)
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controllers are not “detected” when you launch traktor (traktor 3 LE), so you’ve got to move pots, faders, crossfader and pitch faders to have the traktor controls matching the physical ones. (minor problem I know ; ) )
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pitch faders : around the “zero” position, it’s horrible to set the pitch precisely, since the fader has a “zero clip” around which the fader doesn"t send any data… and i’ts physically impossible to set a 0,1 pitch move. i.e., you’re at 128,1, and you can’t move to 128,2. ok for 128,3 or 127,9, but a 0,1 bpm shift is NOT possible. you then have to push “sync” button. (I guess that with traktor Pro I’ll be able to set precisely the fader length, at 8%, and it will be more precise… but with traktor LE it’s 10% and nothing else)
=> reloop 2 will be better for that, with 14bit midi faders + NO physical “clip” on the “zero” fader point.
After all that said I have to say that I love the vci, I’ve mixed severl hours with it and it’s a great controller. The jogwheels are really fine once you are used to them. the master section is great too, the EQs and faders are great to use.
No bug with traktor 3 LE (just a problem with ID3 tags, but this is not a vci problem…)
ONLY PLEASURE!
I still think that the reloop is really interesting.
When it’s released I’ll keep informing myself about it. Perhap’s if it is really reliable I’ll then sell the vci to get the reloop… we’ll see!
cheers
The browsing problem is enough to makes me think in the Reloop again, I’m used to navigate very fast through the collection with the rotary of my DJ2 must be very annoying to have to press repeatedly the buttons on the VCI to reach the desired track, how people here deals with that? must be a lot of VCI users in this forum and Ean himself never talked about this downside of the controller.
pepehouse → it is easy with the vci to program the joggwheel to scroll trough song with a shift button.
I knew there must be some workaround that VCI users here put on, thanks. Now I´m in doubt again, hahaha!
I’d being researching the dj midi controller market for a month or so until I finally took the plunge with a black vci-100 on Monday last week. As usually happens when you dwell on these things I gradually bid myself up from a hercules, to a numark, to a vestax. I think the year I spent working at Bang & Olufsen turned me into a label snob as far as electronics are concerned (although my miele washing machine, fridge and vacuum have never ever given me any problems so I figure you do get what you pay for). Either way, the ‘cool’ of owning a vestax product finally got the better of me.
Anyway, through my month of research I never once came across the new reloop digital jockey 2 (my research obviously wasn’t that thorough). My vci is ordered now so there’s no going back, but I’m getting those doubts about having missed a trick. I’m interested to hear more from Guust-Fi about issues you’ve had with the cue/play buttons on the reloop. Do you think that this is a build quality issue. I guess I really just want re-assurnace that I made the right choice, which is silly, but thanks in advance anyway.
timmychimp :
I have now my black vci since one week, and it’s extremely pleasant to use. The jogs are cream, heavy, solid, and really pleasant to use.
I’ve got traktor LE for now, so I’m not able to reconfigure the midi assignements, but as soon as I can I’ll upgrade to traktor 3 or traktor pro, and then I’ll use the jogs to browse (you can have the left one for directories browsing and the right one for tracks browsing withtin a directory).
there are lots of TKS files downloadable here and there, and it seems relatively easy to do it by yourself.
My first impressions were given with a vci + traktor LE + TKS file provided with the soft and gear. This tks file is not really good, so my impressions are.
But I’m sure when I’ll be able to make my own midi assignements… then I’ll totally love my vci.
for now, what I don’t love, is… well… traktor LE
You didn’t do the wrong choice. even if reloop have great implementations, the build quality won’t be the same as the TANK vci… and the transparent illuminated plastic sides of the jogs are sooooo fresh! (blue, then red when you touch the sensitive part of it…)
anyway, I guess it’s only a matter of price range.
anyone will be really happy with either a vci or a reloop 2 I’m sure!
cheeeers
I´m still in two minds, how do you know the build quality of the Vextax is better than the Reloop? I went to Reloop site and they say is “panel made of brushed aluminium” and “Pro longlife faders and crossfader” but that’s all I got, Is the VCI made of other material than aluminium? It also comes with the new Traktor Pro LE.
“panel made of brushed aluminium” and “Pro longlife faders and crossfader”
..sounds quite good to sell a new product, but to be honest wtf is a pro longlife fader? brushed aluminium may look nice, i wish my technics had that too
all that has actually nothing to do with the build quality!
i don´t know the reloop but the vestax is 4 sho build like a tank…
Well I can’t really tell that the vestax is better build than the reloop, I don’t own the reloop, and the 2 is not reviewed for now…
The reloop IS a good choice, and has several options and useful features that the vestax doesn’t. and yes it comes with traktor (pro) LE, and a tsi file that totally fits the gear to the soft.
I would have gone for the reloop if the 2 was already released and reviewed. Now I have the VCI and it’s great. I would be also really pleased with the reloop for sure.
for the upgrade question, I just saw that lots of users were not happy with T pro, and were waiting for the 1.2. upgrade to fix some bugs and make stuff better… that’s why I was interested by the 60 euros T3 licence someone can sell to me…
I’ll wait for the Tpro 1.2 to be released, traktor LE is fine for me now, enough to begin to LEARN DJing !!! lol
Thanks and cheers to all
I think I’ll wait for the Reloop to be released, which is announced for this month it has some features that the Vextax doesn’t, like the brownse knob or a button for maximizing the brownser or even a pair of buttons for opening and closing folders, of course you can map the VCI to do this but I’m not that geek, I’m just a DJ and I want to spend my time with the music not programming a controller to do things that it should do from factory. Also I don’t think the quality of Reloop is bad, looks good and is not very cheap like Beringher for example.
that’s a good choice, I would have done the same if I was not in a hurry to get my dj controller. And if you’re not really into midi programming stuff, indeed the reloop 2 will be perfect for traktor PRO (even if it is also really good for midi geeks, because the midi implementation is far much better than the vci’s)
you can get it right now here for 249 euros (controller edition) :
tell us when you get it !!!
cheers
Thanks for the link, I found it at music store for 252.50 € but they don’t have it in stock yet.
pepehouse - very interested in a Reloop, have you got one yet?