From what others have told me it is NOT certified. The only way to do it would be to use a NI sound card and get TSP2. Which in the long run is more expensive than getting the S4 plus scratch upgrade.
Now that the VCI-400 SE is out damn. I really want it. Just not ready to drop the money. I hope they sell out and then make a second run and/or have an upgrade for the regular 400 users.
As everyone says, I confirm that this controller is not (yet) certified for Scratch Pro. However we hooked it up on a laptop running Traktor Scratch Pro using the built in sound card of the Vestax (So no NI Audio device) and with the standard mapping you have scratch functionality. No calibration needed. I don’t have Scratch Pro myself, I use Traktor Pro. And I’d hate to drive 300km again to Bangkok just to get evidence (It’s not the distance, it’s the traffic and near suicide). But I’ve seen it with my own eyes, it works. Maybe someone else on the forum who has Scratch Pro can confirm this.
So what I speculate here is that a “Certification” for the VCI-400 might soon appear.
Yeah it will work with Scratch Pro - it’s a midi controller…
But were you using control vinyl / cd’s ?
haha you beat me to it!! It definitely works with scratch pro but you don’t get scratch functionality or the use of timecode!
No control vinyl/cd. Think about it, where would you put the control vinyl/cd if your setup consists of only a laptop, VCI-400, monitor speakers and a headphone.
Anyway, I’ll contact NI to see what they have to say about this. Don’t really expect a clear answer from them.
ok guys thanks for the info, I sold the S4 that I just got and ordered the VCI-400 not the Ean Golden edition. Now is there a difference between the two? Can I get the firmware and mapping for my new controller?
Pretty soon, here’s what Ean said on the blog:
"It seems like the people have spoken - A firmware/mapping/overlay/knobs combo upgrade package needs to happen.
WIth all of those items it will probably be about $99. How do you feel about that price?"
So for 99$ you get to mod your standard edition to a SE.
That will be dope, so I paid $900 for the SE and they $99 for the update kit, so that means I got it for $1000, ill be saving around $175, thats cool. But will that happen?
I have full confidence in DJTT that it will. For example, for me it would be difficult to order a SE from San Francisco to Thailand. It would be double the price when it would arrive with the custom fees, even if the shipment value would have been marked down. So luckily a friend that came visiting me brought a standard edition from the UK. And therefore this upgrade kit would still satisfy many customers around the globe that still would like to enjoy the improved features.
Hi guys, just bought my S4 from DJTT and obviously looking at this is salivating.
I’m not regretting too much though because the overall package for the S4 is much cheaper (TP2 + DVS functionality) while the VCI would force me to buy an audio 6 or 8 with TP2 and that’s really not cheap. However the VCI is looking fly now it’s all Ean Goldened. I’m thinking of sticking with the S4 now and upgrading to the VCI if I get a bit of cash/if it reveals necessary… 
I get the feeling that both are very good controllers, they are just made for a slightly different audience: one is more versatile and controllerist friendly, while the other seems to become an industry standard in its own niche, which is not negligible either. 
Now to anyone who owns the VCI, there’s something that is kinda crucial which is bothering me on the S4. Although not very good, the VU meters on the S4 are at least clear, and when you’re clipping you know it. However, itt seems that the VU meters on the VCI are small and kinda toyish. i like the fact that they are in different colors, but the S4 is missing yellow. The VCI seems to just have colorful but cramped VUs?
VCI-400 has imo two aditional VU meters next to the line fader ones.
So atleast you’ve got more VU meters and imo they’re better too.
Yes I know, that was my point…
Any midi controller works with Scratch - you said it works with Scratch like you had the control vinyl working..
[quote]… we hooked it up on a laptop running Traktor Scratch Pro using the built in sound card of the Vestax (So no NI Audio device) and with the standard mapping you have scratch functionality. No calibration needed.
So what I speculate here is that a “Certification” for the VCI-400 might soon appear. [/quote]
What you actually mean is the jogs work
BTW they work in Traktor Pro - and Traktor Scratch Pro
Can I play vinyl from my 1210’s thru traktor with these controllers?
Hi, I got the same dilemma! Which to go for?!?! I also looked at 4Trak but these two are winning the battle.
I’ll be using the controller as a mixer for my 1210’s too, so can both controllers handle this? Not for scratch. I get that the S4 can deal with scratch with its internal sound card and the 400 needs audio 6/8/10 Dj soundcard to do so but I like to bust out some vinyls too. Can I mix the vinyls thru the traktor mixer using the controllers?
I hope I’ve explained myself ok!
Cheers.
I see, thanks. The s4 does have VU also next to master output. There are just minuscule. Anyone know about the line faders VU?
Yes you can. You just need your laptop to be on. Vinyls through S4 and vinyls through soundcard with VCI…
First of all hello everybody.
I’ve been reading you guys for months but that’s actually my first time I say something
I have 2x SL1210, DJM600, Audio 4 DJ, TP2 Scratch, vci 100 se, mpd24 and x1.
At first I wanted to sell DJM600, VCI 100SE and A2DJ and buy S4 but then VCI400 brought my attention.
I thought then about keeping A4DJ and getting VCI400. In that scenario I don’t need software and audio interface with scratch feature because I hold one already.
I’m quite puzzled because I can’t find clear answer which one will suit me more. I need scratch feature and solid fader because I’m turntablist (not a hard core one thou). I want to get Kontrol F1 as well when it will come out because my aim is to play my own tunes/remixes live in traktor but previously done in ableton and top it up with turntablist elements.
What would you guys suggest?
I heard somewhere that effects sections in vci400 are pretty rubbish because dry/wet knob is 360. If anyone who owns one could say something about it if it’s really that frustrating.
Thanks in advance for your attention guys.
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Yes you can. You just need your laptop to be on. Vinyls through S4 and vinyls through soundcard with VCI…[/quote]
As far as I can tell it looks like the vci400 does not have phono preamps. Mine just says line next to the external inputs. This means you won’t be able to run Turntables through it and may be one of the reasons it isn’t scratch certified.
It’s true that this remains very unclear. So we’ll need someone to test it. However on page 16 of the manual it is written than line in 1/2 can be used to connect turntables.
Just got the S4, and OH MY.
First thing I can say when comparing to a vestax: the resolution makes a difference. I dunno if this has been improved on the VCI-400 but the S4 is almost like CDJ controls. Not in terms of feel, but in terms of reactivity; its kinda brilliant.
Next week I’m gonna hook up turntables and timecodes straight up, no soundcard required. The VCI can do it with soundcard, but basically what I’m trying to say here is that it’s actually pretty good value since it’s packed with TP2, or the other way of putting it is, the VCI is just too expensive. However, for someone who wants a reliable piece of kit and that has already a lot of experience and money to spend, I think that the VCI is very versatile, and has tons of mappable buttons. But honestly, that S4 is good. For a “all-star” kind of controller, you can push it far and get pretty crazy with it. It’s a cheaper way to show off what Digital DJing can do.
One last thing. IMHO, and once again this might be a matter of taste, the S4 looks more professional than the VCI. I can see myself rocking to a gig no problem with this thing. It is true that the Ean Golden upgrade on the VCI kinda cures that problem with that nice dark finish, but once again, not the same price.
Verdict:
VCI: for the experimented user. Basically, if you know you want it, get one. I wasn’t disappointed by the VCI-100 and I’m sure the VCI-400 is astonishing.
S4: Traktor integration, cheaper in the long run. I really think you won’t be disappointed of not having the bucks to buy a VCI. It’s a really really really 
nice controller, and timecode is actually a pretty good argument.
Yes I am biased, and no I haven’t tried to VCI-400; this is just me sharing my point of view and power to you to interpret it the way you want. 
Happy DJing!
Sorry I wasn’t clear, I meant through external soundcard. 
This indeed deserved to be checked though…
Not true at all. I done it with different things including things from DJTT. Yes import fees as anywhere but take away about 90% of what you said